| Goblin13 |
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At my upcoming gaming table one player will have a Paladin of Apsu ( the good dragon god ) and after reading Inner Sea Gods she asked "You know what will be fun ? Deific Obedience for Apsu and some Boons !" .. I like the challenge, but alone I'll probably make a mess with balancing things, so what are your toughts ?
Apsu is a LG deity with the Creation,Good,Earth, Law and Travel Domains.
Portfolio is Dragons, Glory, Leadership and Peace
Favored Weapon : Quaterstaff and Breath Weapon
Obedience : No idea for now, maybe something related to build something ( he is the Maker of all the multiverse according to Dragon lore ) ?
Boons :
1st - 3 SLA, 1°Level 3/day, 2° Level 2/day, 3° Level 1/day
1° = Longstrider for the "Waybringer" part of the Deity ?
2° = Fire Breath, because Dragons ?
3° = ???
2nd - No idea
3rd - Something like Form of the Dragon but, only good dragons and maybe with some extras.
Any suggestion ?
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Well, generally speaking, the boons for the Evangelist, Exalted and Sentinel each focus somewhat on an aspect of the deity. They'll take inspiration from one of their domains or what they're a deity of.
As for actually coming up with the boons and obedience itself...
As you've noted, the 1st boon is always an SLA; 1st level 3/day, 2nd level 2/day, or 3rd level 1/day.
The 2nd boon varies a good bit, so it could be a lot of things.
As for the 3rd boon though? The third boon generally is the equivalent to a ninth level spell effect. Somewhere around that power level, though nothing so open ended as Wish or Miracle.
I'd recommend looking at his domains for the spells of 1st boon. I'd post something for the other two, but I can't think of anything in particular at the moment.
| Guardianlord |
The Wiki has different domains (Artifice, Good, Law, Scalykind, Travel
Subdomains - Archon, Construct, Dragon, Exploration, Judgment, Toil, Trade) and bite instead of breath weapon for Apsu, I am not sure if it is different in the inner sea guide.
For obedience's: Worshipers must climb to the highest point they are near (top of hill, tree, church spire, etc) and loudly praise Apsu (in draconic), thanking him for creation and listing all the great things the worshipful has seen in their travels and tell of three things they have defended from evil, three evils they have vanquished, or three valuable items they have traded, for 1 hour. (Gain a +4 sacred bonus save vs evil aligned breath weapons?)
Maybe they must find a barren place that has no life growing within, then they must prepare the are (smash rocks, churn soil, divert a water source, etc), then the worshiper must (while praying in draconic), plant a seed or sapling so that life may return to the earth at that spot. They must then carve draconic runes of life, protection, and Apsu's will in a symbolic circle around the newly planted life (1 Hour). When this is done, they must gather a piece of the earth and carry this to their next place of obedience (it is then mixed into the next preparation area). Gain a +4 Sacred bonus on saves vs earth or plant spells?
1st -3rd lvl could be Shifting sand (earth domain control spell), hurricane blast (like from a dragons wings), or Life shield (life domain protects vs undead attacks). http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/s/shifting-sand, http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/h/hurricane-blast, http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/l/life-shield.
2nd could be something from the draconic sorcerer bloodline, limited fly, claws/tail for rounds/day, bite attack, etc.
3rd as a dragon form rounds/day or minutes/day (good, metallic - always the same one) but with DR?/Evil as well.
Not sure if these are anything like what you were looking for.
| Goblin13 |
Those obediences are great ! *_*
I like the first one, a lot !
I've found that with the Scalykind-Dragon there are more choices that fits :
1st - Longstrider ( Travel )
2nd - ? ( something related to Artifice )
3rd - Draconic Reservoir ( Scalykind - Dragon )
2nd boon .. A bite attack sounds good, but need some extra on this !
3rd Boon will be a Platinum Dragon Form ( Like Form of the Dragon III,
but with DR/Evil as you suggested, Elemental Breath weapon of choice each time you use it but no special Immunities to Energy types, maybe some minor resistance vs all )
Captain K.
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My concern with Draconic form is its redundancy with many Apsu builds.
For example, I have an Apsu-worshipping Paladin/Sorcerer/Dragon Disciple. It isn't even all that exotic, being a sensible way to enter that good prestige class.
Even if he didn't multiclass, those two standard classes are the most likely for Apsu worshippers - he's LG and all about nobility for Paladins and Draconic Sorcerers already spend the whole day pretending they are a proper dragon.
His Deific Obedience stuff should complement these classes. Longstrider is an excellent idea though.
| Goblin13 |
I understand the tought, thanks for sharing it !
Because the PC is going for Sentinel PrC, or at least taking the feats,
I'm trying to create something that fuse the 3 typical aspects of the Obediences in Inner Sea Gods. The Draconic part is the final boon, the second I'm thinking of something about creation,or at very least another part of the "Waybringer" aspect ( maybe in a very broad sense Way is Fate, Course of Action ? - toughts ? - )
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I studied the Deific Obedience boons for the purpose of homebrewing my race's goddess. Perhaps my notes could be of use?
The prestige class boons vary in theme. The exalted boons usually benefit a spellcaster, particularly a cleric. Sentinel boons usually benefit a fighting character. Evangelist boons seem designed to benefit a general character that might not be a wizard or cleric. Some evangelist boons will directly benefit a class feature from one of the listed required aligned classes listed in the evangelist description. For example, Lamashtu’s second boon affects a summoner eidolon. These boons offer alternate effects for those without the required class feature.
The first boon grants to cast either a 1st-level spell three times per day, a 2nd-level spell twice per day, or a third-level spell once per day as spell-like abilities.
The second boon is a special ability that’s roughly on par with a 5th level spell cast once per day. Some are buffs or allow you to change how a spell or class feature work. Buffs usually last a number of rounds equal to 1 + 1 per 4 HD.
The third boon is roughly on par with an 8th level spell cast once per day. In fact, many of them are spells with mechanical differences thematic for the god. Some will summon a particular creature native to the god’s realm, which last 1 minute per HD, allow telepathic communication at 100 feet, and can be commanded. However, they won’t follow any command that violates its alignment and service to the god. In fact, they may even attack you. See Sarenrae’s angelic ally.