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Hey All,
I have been running this module for a few weeks now, and the heroes are now in the thick of it. During the process I started to think how effective the Church of Razmir would be at converting the masses to its way of thinking. Here is what I've come up with:
The Church of Razmir is one where lies, deception, and out-right brutality and bullying are accepted methods of converting the free citizens of Golarion to the faith of the Living God. The Church often employs methods whereby townsfolk are duped into believing the way of the Mask such as ceremonies where people are drugged en-mass or through the use of Temples which amount to nothing more than “rehabilitation” and brainwashing camps.
When a person is subjected to the type of treatment that is expected from the faithful priests of the Church of Razmir, a person can often break, go mad, or rebel. For this reason, the Church employs a method whereby a person’s esteem is broken down over a period of days or sometimes weeks with the aim being that their personality can be “rebuilt” in the image of The Living God.
The following rules apply when a character is forced to endure Razmir’s Indoctrination process.
Each day that a character is subjected to this type of treatment requires a DC 5 Will Save. The following modifiers apply to the DC:
> Each additional day the character is subjected to indoctrination: +1
> Reading the Living God’s holy text willingly: +5
> The subject being of any Good alignment: -2
> The subject being of Chaotic Good alignment: -5
> The subject being of any evil alignment: +2
> The subject having been beaten to unconsciousness during their indoctrination: +5
> The subject is faithful to a good aligned entity: -5
> The subject is faithful to any other entity other than Razmir: -2
Thoughts and additions would be appreciated.
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OK, so after thinking a little bit more, here is a statified version:
The Church of Razmir is one where lies, deception, and out-right brutality and bullying are accepted methods of converting the free citizens of Golarion to the faith of the Living God. The Church often employs methods whereby townsfolk are duped into believing the way of the Mask such as ceremonies where people are drugged en-mass or through the use of Temples which amount to nothing more than "rehabilitation" and brainwashing camps.
When a person is subjected to the type of treatment that is expected from the faithful priests of the Church of Razmir, a person can often break, go mad, or rebel. For this reason, the Church employs a method whereby a person’s esteem is broken down over a period of days or sometimes weeks with the aim being that their personality can be “rebuilt” in the image of The Living God.
The following rules apply when a character is forced to endure Razmir's Indoctrination process:
RAZMIR INDOCTRINATION
Description: A character is subjected to brutal treatment and brainwashing at the hands of members of the Church of Razmir
Type: Indoctrination
Save: Will DC 5 to avoid effects
Frequency: 1/day; 3 consequent saves negates
Effect Character becomes broken and a follower of Razmir
Modifiers (applied to the DC):
- Each additional day the character is subjected to indoctrination: +1
- Reading the Living God's holy text willingly: +5
- The subject being of any Good alignment: -2
- The subject being of Chaotic Good alignment: -5
- The subject being of any evil alignment: +2
- The subject having been beaten during their indoctrination: +5
- The subject is faithful to a good aligned deity: -5
- The subject is faithful to any non-good deity other than Razmir: -2
Try this wording instead:
Frequency: 1/day; Failing 3 consecutive saves results in character being converted
That means that if a person fails three saves in a row they are converted. Is that what you want?
What is the duration of an Indoctrination period? Random? Is it "this happens until it works?"
You may also consider the following elements: making them one step more "friendly" (similar to the Diplomacy effect) to Razmiran tenets with each failed save. By the end, they become entirely devoted. This makes the transition more gradual, but also thorough and explainable.
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That means that if a person fails three saves in a row they are converted. Is that what you want?
That was what I was going for yes, but was perhaps looking for something that worked with existing rules within the system.
What is the duration of an Indoctrination period? Random? Is it "this happens until it works?"
Basically it happens until they are converted. I guess its akin to what happens to the main character in 1984. The Church attempts to bend them to their will until they break.
You may also consider the following elements: making them one step more "friendly" (similar to the Diplomacy effect) to Razmiran tenets with each failed save. By the end, they become entirely devoted. This makes the transition more gradual, but also thorough and explainable.
I had not considered that. I might do some more research. I also want the reverse to be true when people attempt to "redeem" people who have been "converted".
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After a little more thought, this is what I came up with:
The Church of Razmir is one where lies, deception, and out-right brutality and bullying are accepted methods of converting the free citizens of Golarion to the faith of the Living God. The Church often employs methods whereby townsfolk are duped into believing the way of the Mask such as through dubious ceremonies where people are drugged en-mass or through the use of Temples which amount to nothing more than "rehabilitation" and brainwashing camps.
When a person is subjected to the type of treatment that is expected from the faithful priests of the Church of Razmir, a person can often break mentally, or in some cases, rebel. For this reason, the Church employs a method whereby a person’s esteem is broken down over a period of days or sometimes weeks, with the aim being that their personality can be “rebuilt” in the image of The Living God.
CONVERSION (Skill Use)
Description The priest may use their Bluff, Diplomacy or Intimidation skill (depending on their methodology) in order to attempt to convert a target to the ways of the Church of Razmir. The DC for such an attempt is based on the attitude of the target. Priests of the Church of Razmir usually take their time to cultivate relations with people within a settlement before attempting to assimilate them to the ways of the Living God. Razmiran priests are cunning, and normally before an attempt is made, the priests have carefully selected an individual or target group. Treat all attempts in this fashion to be the same as the use of the Diplomacy skill where the target must be made at least Friendly before conversion can commence.
Time to Use 1d4 hours (normally no more than one attempt is conducted per day)
Effect The target is subject to Razmiran Indoctrination (see below).
RAZMIRAN INDOCTRINATION
Description A character is subjected to brutal treatment and brainwashing at the hands of members of the Church of Razmir
Type Indoctrination
Save Will DC 5
Frequency 1/day; Failing 3 consecutive saves results in the target being converted
Effect Character becomes broken and a follower of Razmir
Modifiers (applied to the DC)
- Each additional day the character is subjected to indoctrination: +1
- Reading the Living God's holy text willingly: +5
- The subject being of any Good alignment: -2
- The subject being of Chaotic Good alignment: -5
- The subject being of any evil alignment: +2
- The subject having been beaten during their indoctrination: +5
- The subject is faithful to a good aligned entity: -5
- The subject is faithful to any entity other than Razmir: -2
- For each 5 points the converting priest rolls above the required DC to convert the target: +2
You never do, Laz, no matter how many times I explain it. :)
(You're cool, though, sir.)
((Incidentally, I do, in fact, like the WoW Orcs, despite any disagreements on the topics they come up in.))
((I mention, as I hadn't seen you lately, and I wanted to remember to say that, since I often forget!))
EDITed: a few times for clarity.