Beast Shape and what it gives you

[Thomas Long 175]

Now usually I feel this is pretty straight forward. However, using it for some stuff I usually haven't dealt with I'm inclined to ask.

I'm considering a bat. Beast Shape 3 says it can give you fly 90 (good), and blindsense 30. However a bat gives you fly 40 (good) and blindsense 20.

This brings up the question of if your values have to match exactly in order to receive the perks on beast shape. The spell does not state up to those values just that if you have them you may receive them.

So would I get as a bat

1) fly 90 (good) and blindsense 30
2) fly 40 (good) and blindsense 20
3) nothing

I'm honestly hoping for 2 and seeing 3 as more of a possibility than 1 here, but here's to hoping :P

[Jeraa]

It says why you get in the general rules of all polymorph abilities. All shape-changing spells and abilities follow the same general rules:

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Polymorph: A polymorph spell transforms your physical body to take on the shape of another creature. While these spells make you appear to be the creature, granting you a +10 bonus on Disguise skill checks, they do not grant you all of the abilities and powers of the creature. Each polymorph spell allows you to assume the form of a creature of a specific type, granting you a number of bonuses to your ability scores and a bonus to your natural armor. In addition, each polymorph spell can grant you a number of other benefits, including movement types, resistances, and senses. If the form you choose grants these benefits, or a greater ability of the same type, you gain the listed benefit. If the form grants a lesser ability of the same type, you gain the lesser ability instead. Your base speed changes to match that of the form you assume. If the form grants a swim or burrow speed, you maintain the ability to breathe if you are swimming or burrowing. The DC for any of these abilities equals your DC for the polymorph spell used to change you into that form.

You get the lesser of the two abilities. So in your case, its B. You gain Fly 40, and Blindsense 20.

[Thomas Long 175]

Ok thank you, not too used to polymorph spells.