Adamantine blades


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Does my one-handed adamantine blade really only gain +1 hit point over standard blades?

What if I enchant it? Doe the bonus hit points from the enhancement bonus get multiplied by the adamantine property as well?

Why on earth does adamantine only give +1/3 of the iten's hit points anyways? That seems like such an arbitrary number that doesn't really give much benefit to anything.


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the Hardness should protect it very well, but the HP increase is there just in case.

adamantine weapons are always considered masterwork, and thus gain the +1 to hit. Enhancing a weapon does not stack with masterwork's effect. The HP increase would come after the Adamantine "bonus", as the Adamantine sword isn't getting "bonus hp" that's just it's HP in relation to a normal object.

aka, the adamantine doesn't effect the magic on a sword.

Grand Lodge

Ravingdork wrote:

Does my one-handed adamantine blade really only gain +1 hit point over standard blades?

It also gets that minor trick of bypassing hardness.


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Yes, I'm aware of the other benefits of adamantine. I'm just curious as to why this one seems so odd and well, not all that great.


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Ravingdork wrote:
Yes, I'm aware of the other benefits of adamantine. I'm just curious as to why this one seems so odd and well, not all that great.

like I said, it's because adamantine weapons are considered masterwork for all purposes.


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Checking the numbers...

Well, a steel sword (hardness 10, 30 hp per inch of thickness, 5 hp, indicating 1/6 of an inch thick) versus an adamantine sword (hardness 20, 40 hp per inch of thickness, giving 1/6 of an inch 6 hp (due to rounding down)) does seem a little odd, though that hardness increase gives it a minimum effective hp increase of 11, and a hypothetical edge-case hp increase of 71+ hp (assuming minimum-to-damage, a steel sword takes 55 points of damage before being destroyed, and an adamantine sword takes 126. Of course, this doesn't account for all of the results where the steel sword would be destroyed (15-20 hp damage) but the adamantine one wouldn't even be scratched)).


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When you put it that way, Chemlak, it does make a bit of sense.

How'd you get so smart? You remind me of me a few years ago in so many ways.

Scarab Sages

The fact that it bypasses hardness it it's primary reason for getting an adamantine blade. You can also take a weapon and use adamantine weapon blanch (200gp) to give yourself a one hit with adamantine or 10 arrows/sling stones/bullets. Good for when you don't have the money yet to pay for it or you don't want to give up a favorite enchanted weapon.


I thought the main draw was getting to bypass DR/Adamantine

You need a +5 weapon to do so otherwise.


CommandoDude wrote:

I thought the main draw was getting to bypass DR/Adamantine

You need a +5 weapon to do so otherwise.

Chances are if you are running into something that has adamantine DR at low levels, you're in for a seriously rough ride. At the point you can first afford an adamantine weapon it is essentially a "master key" (if you don't mind not being able to secure the area you are entering again.) I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had a character with an adamantine great sword they hardly ever used on combat...


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CommandoDude wrote:

I thought the main draw was getting to bypass DR/Adamantine

You need a +5 weapon to do so otherwise.

yeah, I'd say 90% of the time I got adamantine is was so I could sunder all the things.


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Ravingdork wrote:

When you put it that way, Chemlak, it does make a bit of sense.

How'd you get so smart? You remind me of me a few years ago in so many ways.

Heh.

Short answer: I have a head for numbers.

The long answer was pretty self-aggrandising, so I'm leaving that out, but suffice to say that I'm good with numbers and I have lots of experience interpreting numerical interactions for people all over the scale of mathematical skill, from complete numpties all the way up to professional number-crunchers.

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