Petition to globally legitimize the US presidency


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president of the world

Liberty's Edge

Do the babies get to vote?


Yeah this is all kinds of no. It's bad enough we're as divided as we are on what makes a good leader here in the States. Handing that choice out to people not even affected by that leadership is an immensely terrible idea.


Is Michael Palin still in play? That guy gets my wote, drag or no drag.


Apart from the hundreds of good reasons why this is a terrible idea... the idea has some serious merit. After all, with the US pushing through ubiquitous surveillance, laxed legal standards, disgusting extradition practices, weakened rule of law, horrid IP laws and so on (which was succinctly proven in CableGate) in even the countries who are allied to it, it gets more and more unreasonable that the US foreign policy should NOT be directed by an international democratic process. Claiming that people are not affected by the US presidency is pathetic after the War on Terror excesses, Orthos.


does it matter whether 314 million uninformed idiots vote or 7 billion uninformed idiots do? All it does is make the whole process a logistic nightmare of never-before seen proportions and open up all kind of possibilities for fraud.

While I would like to be able to influence the outcome of US presidency elections and I think it would be only fair considering how much US foreign policy messes with everything, I would not want to the US president to become some kind of world leader. If any country's political top should be allowed to hold that position it should be sweden's or norway's. The USA are one of the worst suited western countries for that much responsibility.

Scarab Sages

"does it matter whether 314 million uninformed idiots vote or 7 billion uninformed idiots do? "

Well, it makes the election slightly easier to rig I guess.

I like that so far we have ONE signature to that petition.

Hilarious.


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PSusac wrote:

I like that so far we have ONE signature to that petition.

Hilarious.

I see you are new to Yellowdingo's petition threads?


Threeshades wrote:

does it matter whether 314 million uninformed idiots vote or 7 billion uninformed idiots do? All it does is make the whole process a logistic nightmare of never-before seen proportions and open up all kind of possibilities for fraud.

While I would like to be able to influence the outcome of US presidency elections and I think it would be only fair considering how much US foreign policy messes with everything, I would not want to the US president to become some kind of world leader. If any country's political top should be allowed to hold that position it should be sweden's or norway's. The USA are one of the worst suited western countries for that much responsibility.

Guh... as a resident of Sweden... I bring you this message: You. Do. NOT. I. Repeat. You. Do. NOT! Want. the current-era political leadership here to make the calls for the whole world. Trust me on this.


Sissyl wrote:


Guh... as a resident of Sweden... I bring you this message: You. Do. NOT. I. Repeat. You. Do. NOT! Want. the current-era political leadership here to make the calls for the whole world. Trust me on this.

Agreed. Though of course it could be worse. It could be the american political leadership.


True.

Liberty's Edge

Threeshades wrote:
PSusac wrote:

I like that so far we have ONE signature to that petition.

Hilarious.

I see you are new to Yellowdingo's petition threads?

His record's something like three.

We figure it includes his mother and the mango tree outside his house.

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Krensky wrote:
Threeshades wrote:
PSusac wrote:

I like that so far we have ONE signature to that petition.

Hilarious.

I see you are new to Yellowdingo's petition threads?

His record's something like three.

We figure it includes his mother and the mango tree outside his house.

It includes me and two others from these forums. They were big supporters of giving all women us citizenship. Thats like three in five thousand.


Sissyl wrote:
Threeshades wrote:

does it matter whether 314 million uninformed idiots vote or 7 billion uninformed idiots do? All it does is make the whole process a logistic nightmare of never-before seen proportions and open up all kind of possibilities for fraud.

While I would like to be able to influence the outcome of US presidency elections and I think it would be only fair considering how much US foreign policy messes with everything, I would not want to the US president to become some kind of world leader. If any country's political top should be allowed to hold that position it should be sweden's or norway's. The USA are one of the worst suited western countries for that much responsibility.

Guh... as a resident of Sweden... I bring you this message: You. Do. NOT. I. Repeat. You. Do. NOT! Want. the current-era political leadership here to make the calls for the whole world. Trust me on this.

Democracy is flawed, but looking at the standard of wealth and education up there i would say sweden and norway have the best track record.


Heh. Well, funny how everyone sees only those sides of the coin. And as for wealth, Swedes do not have that. If anything, Swedes have a negative net worth.

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