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Hey,

There was a post on the Pathfinder RPG page on Facebook that I think deserves consideration and wanted to make sure word got back to Paizo promptly, so I'm reposting here. Also, since this community is usually friendly and often pro-active, someone here might already have something that could help in this situation.

Mark Christopher Hoke wrote:
hey all!! I am trying to help out a friend. I am trying to find a history of the world of pathfinder. I know it little by little in a lot of books but here is the catch...my friend is blind. So any know of one that maybe out there or is there anyone that may want to make one up on youtube? I think it would be a great idea and my even be fun. I would do it myself but I dont know how to do it. Any help would be great thanks!!


Someone did the Legacy of Fire intros, and the goblin song is on YouTube as well.

Sorry, I'm at home sick, and my search-fu is weak. Try inside the AP message board threads.


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Someone did the Legacy of Fire intros, and the goblin song is on YouTube as well.

Sorry, I'm at home sick, and my search-fu is weak. Try inside the AP message board threads.

I do know a company who is producing board games for the vision-impaired. You might google "64oz Games" and see where it takes you. They're about to begin their first Kickstarter, and one of the owners is a professional teacher for the blind.

It isn't PF, but they may be a source a person could work with or interview for how it could be done, the expense, and so on.


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Hmm, could you set up the Inner Sea World Guide PDF and feed it into Text-to-Speech software?


Matt Thomason wrote:
Hmm, could you set up the Inner Sea World Guide PDF and feed it into Text-to-Speech software?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I suspect that if the text is OCR'd/available within the PDF, then existing software could read it. I could ask around and see if anyone's had success. Or were you asking more generally or more specific?


Ruggs wrote:
Matt Thomason wrote:
Hmm, could you set up the Inner Sea World Guide PDF and feed it into Text-to-Speech software?
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I suspect that if the text is OCR'd/available within the PDF, then existing software could read it. I could ask around and see if anyone's had success. Or were you asking more generally or more specific?

Well, mostly "does Adobe Reader have text-to-speech, or is there a third party piece of software that can be used" (my own Adobe Reader is hosed right now so I can't check if it even has that facility.)

Have seen from the Facebook page now that this has now been tried with Adobe Reader, and looks like (with a few pronunciation issues) it works :)

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Matt Thomason wrote:
Ruggs wrote:
Matt Thomason wrote:
Hmm, could you set up the Inner Sea World Guide PDF and feed it into Text-to-Speech software?
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. I suspect that if the text is OCR'd/available within the PDF, then existing software could read it. I could ask around and see if anyone's had success. Or were you asking more generally or more specific?

Well, mostly "does Adobe Reader have text-to-speech, or is there a third party piece of software that can be used" (my own Adobe Reader is hosed right now so I can't check if it even has that facility.)

Have seen from the Facebook page now that this has now been tried with Adobe Reader, and looks like (with a few pronunciation issues) it works :)

A little poking revealed that the JAWS software, and nvda software should both do so.

This relies on the text being properly OCR'd, of course.

Let us know how it goes?


PS +1 for proper bookmarking/indexing of PDFs, as well as OCR!


Ruggs wrote:

PS +1 for proper bookmarking/indexing of PDFs, as well as OCR!

Actually no OCR at all, as Paizo PDFs come direct from the source material and therefore get the original text directly without needing to scan and OCR it :)


Matt Thomason wrote:
Ruggs wrote:

PS +1 for proper bookmarking/indexing of PDFs, as well as OCR!

Actually no OCR at all, as Paizo PDFs come direct from the source material and therefore get the original text directly without needing to scan and OCR it :)

Yep, yep. :) That's my bad. I suppose the correct term is "embedded text" or "preserved text." I can never recall offhand.

I did a little more digging, and ran across this nice PDF on how to make a document accessible from InDesign, also.

It sounds as though there might be at least a small market for a how-to document aimed at making gaming publications accessible.

For example, although a number of these tutorials mention creating a tagged PDF and how to enable it, they provide fewer guidelines for tagging (part of what makes a document accessible) methodology.

I imagine most game systems (say, a core rule book) could have similar expectations for tags and content flow. That's one of the reasons this could be a potential publication market. Provide an easy guide and a concise, clear set of standards (and maybe an example InDesign, etc. document or two) and make it both easier and aimed at gaming pubs.

I'm not certain, but it seems like a possibility.


Ruggs wrote:


I did a little more digging, and ran across this nice PDF on how to make a document accessible from InDesign, also.

HA! I've actually been looking for that very thing for something I'm working on... THANK YOU :D

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if your friend doesn't mind the annoying readings of the watermarks on each page, and the issues with text to speech readers trying to read you tables, ezpdf has a text to speech function that I use a lot for the pathfinder tales books. I have also listed to some of the other paizo products with it, but things like index pages and class advancement tables in books are really hard on the ears when you are just hearing strings of numbers.

It would be really sweet if paizo could figure out a way to watermark their stuff without all of the hidden super tiny white on white fonts that they use all over pages that ezpdf can pick out and throw in the middle of sentences.

Worth a try anyway maybe...

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