Choosing First feat - Lem


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A noob question but can i take Weapons as a Power feat before Armour. I know the take the left first is mentioned but this got changed for certain boxes for example (+1) (+2) (Allies) you can take Allies before the +1 etc.


I think you are okay to do what you want, although you have to read the rules in a particular way to get that interpretation.

Rules (new pdf just released), p.7:
If there’s more than one checkbox associated with a skill, power, or card type, you must check the unchecked box farthest to the left before you can check immediately adjacent boxes. For example, if a skill has boxes labeled +1, +2, and +3, you must check the +1 box before you can check the +2 or +3 box, and you must have checked +1 and +2 before you can check +3.

I think that weapons and armor are separate powers, so it is okay to 'x' off weapons before armor.


This was how I read it also, thanks for the help.


Sokeem wrote:
A noob question but can i take Weapons as a Power feat before Armour. I know the take the left first is mentioned but this got changed for certain boxes for example (+1) (+2) (Allies) you can take Allies before the +1 etc.

I think the intent is that you can choose to take the Weapons Power feat before you take the Light Armours Power feat. The FAQ is clear that as long as the boxes are not immediately adjacent then it is allowed.

Trouble with this is that if you apply the same logic to (say) Ezren's Hand Size Power, you would be allowed to take an 8 card hand size and skip a 7 card hand size entirely. I don't think this is the intent with the Hand Size feat, you need to progress them. Trouble is, this isn't what the FAQ says.

BTW, your example of "(+1) (+2) (Allies)" would mean you need to take "+1" first, then "+2", and only then could you take "Allies". I don't know of any Power feats like this, I assume it was just an example. Out of the (non-specialized) Role character cards, only Seelah has check boxes that are not adjacent.


The intent with numerically progressive feats seems pretty clear, especially since they don't stack (only the highest applies).

For the weapons/armour thing, I just look at Amiri's character card for precedent. She starts off with Light Armour, can get Heavy Armour but doesn't start with it, and has Weapons. They are still arranged in that order though, which leads me to believe that they don't depend on each other.


For the weapons/armour thing, I just look at Amiri's character card for precedent. She starts off with Light Armour, can get Heavy Armour but doesn't start with it, and has Weapons. They are still arranged in that order though, which leads me to believe that they don't depend on each other.

This I think confirms it thank you.

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xris wrote:
Sokeem wrote:
A noob question but can i take Weapons as a Power feat before Armour. I know the take the left first is mentioned but this got changed for certain boxes for example (+1) (+2) (Allies) you can take Allies before the +1 etc.

I think the intent is that you can choose to take the Weapons Power feat before you take the Light Armours Power feat. The FAQ is clear that as long as the boxes are not immediately adjacent then it is allowed.

Trouble with this is that if you apply the same logic to (say) Ezren's Hand Size Power, you would be allowed to take an 8 card hand size and skip a 7 card hand size entirely. I don't think this is the intent with the Hand Size feat, you need to progress them. Trouble is, this isn't what the FAQ says.

BTW, your example of "(+1) (+2) (Allies)" would mean you need to take "+1" first, then "+2", and only then could you take "Allies". I don't know of any Power feats like this, I assume it was just an example. Out of the (non-specialized) Role character cards, only Seelah has check boxes that are not adjacent.

Really? You need this spelled out for you? It is quite obvious that you have to take the 7 before the 8.


Ditto, you can't skip a number on the hand size line. I'm assuming they didn't cramp them super close, simply for the sake of appearances. Don't be SOOOOOO literal in the reading of the rules that you break all common sense.

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