Mundane crafting speed...


3.5/d20/OGL

Liberty's Edge

Looking over the rules in for crafting, it seems utterly and completely pointless for PC's while for NPC's it makes sense. Let's just compare vs a caster: (This is profit/savings, excluding raw materials)

Caster Level, per Day, per Week, per Year, Item Creation details
1, 12g 5s, 87g 5s, 4,450g, Scroll 1x1x25
2, 25g, 175g, 9,100g, Scroll 2x1x25
3, 150g, 1,050g, 54,600g, Potion 3x2x50
4, 200g, 1,400g, 72,800g, Potion 4x2x50
5, 1000g, 7,000g, 364,000g, Arms&Armor 1x1x2000

While creating mundane items is a fixed 1 Silver a week.... regardless.... This means taking any crafting skill is utterly useless overall, not only because you can't make a reasonable profit, but it takes forever to make ANYTHING worthwhile (Making 50 arrows takes 24 days, geez, if my math is backwards then it takes 10 weeks instead!!)

I've written a potential creation feat and alternate rules that exponentially increases the amount you can do in a given week (from 1 Silver to 25, to 600, to 15000); meaning if you take the feat once you can make 50 arrows in 1 day (or 3 if my math was using the wrong numbers); To get anywhere near what the mages can make you'd have to use at least 2-3 feats.

Thoughts anyone?

Liberty's Edge

Also to note the DC rules seemed off, if I understand the rules right you have to beat a multiple of the DC for making something in order to shorten the time. So Arrows being DC 12 you'd have to get DC 24 to shorten it (for 2x-3x effect) and only for one week. This means you'd have to dump ridiculous amounts of points to shorten the 24days (or 10 weeks), which is also ridiculous compared to just taking 1 level of sorcerer.

Wouldn't it make more sense that for each 5 points over that the time to make it gets cut in half? Course item creation is based on per week rather than a total, but that doesn't work for PC's. Following that logic, if you get a result of 17 then 24 days becomes 12 days (or 10 weeks becomes 5 weeks), with each progressive 5 skill points it not only gets easier to succeed but faster as well.

Truthfully, this can't be unbalancing, especially since no matter how much it gets bumped up they can't make more than 1000g in a given day putting them on par with casters.

Liberty's Edge

I've seen an example now of using crafting, which now leaves me confused. *Sighs* Just ignore this post for now until I have a chance to figure it all out.

Liberty's Edge

I really wish an example was present in the 3.5 and Pathfinder books, so just ignore my posts.

The feat will end up being x15 your result (in Silver).

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