or would the Admiral add a bonus to the moral of his fleet?
This thread is quite old, but: Same question here..
Shouldn't the Admirals CHA bonus be added to the morale value of all squadrons?
or would the Admiral add a bonus to the moral of his fleet?This thread is quite old, but: Same question here..
Shouldn't the Admirals CHA bonus be added to the morale value of all squadrons?
From my other response in a different part of the boards, for people that come across this in the future:
The rules do not specify. I'm guessing it was lost in editing.
The main points to work with, and then make a call based off of, are:
Admiral: Commander of a single fleet. An admiral influences a fleet’s morale score and determines the fleet’s maximum size.
Commodore: Commander of a single squadron. A commodore primarily influences a squadron’s Attack Value and Defense Value.
Step 3—Select Commodore: List the name of the squadron’s commodore, along with her Charisma modifier and Profession (sailor) skill modifier. An admiral can never serve as a commodore. If a commodore is also a significant character (either a PC or a significant named NPC), that squadron gains a +2 bonus on all attack rolls, damage rolls, and morale checks. (As a general rule, most NPC fleets should have 2–4 significant named NPCs serving as commodores.)
Step 9—Determine Morale Check: A squadron’s base morale check is equal to its commodore’s Charisma modifier, further modified by flagship boons and the presence of significant commodores.
My guess is that page 66 is supposed to be "...A squadron’s base morale check is equal to its admiral’s Charisma modifier..."
Either that, or you have to change the line "An admiral influences a fleet’s morale score and determines the fleet’s maximum size." to "An admiral determines the fleet’s maximum size." (which seems kind of lame... base morale off of admiral's charisma makes more sense to me.OPINION:
Morale checks will decide the battle more than attacks. Honestly, I took them out of my game because otherwise, when I ran a few tests, nearly every ship fled after a couple of hits / after a couple of rounds and it would've been disappointing to my group. I wanted the enemy to be willing to risk it all to win.
For a NPC fleet's squadron the base morale value is 3, for squadrons of a PC fleet it is Infamy divided by 10 (rounded down). IMHO, it makes more sense to adjust this value with the Charisma modifier of the admiral.
With a morale score of 3, it might take just one failed morale check to loose a squadron. It would even (theoretically) be possible to loose a complete fleet in one round. That doesn't seem plausible to me.
But as I stated in my other post, GM will have (as always) the final say in this.
Yeah, Razz, that's why I didn't use the Morale rules for my game.
Hopefully, for the sake of making the fleet combat more intense, your GM doesn't use them either.
Plus, it's WAY more fun to sink ships rather than to have the enemy tuck tail and run!
Yes, that's a good idea, I'll suggest that!
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Without moral the fleet battle takes quite a while with around 80 ships in the last battle.
But the biggest issue is the moral penalty to ALL squadrons every time one squadron is lost.
If you cancel that or only apply it to the Rout phase roll, then you should have a more fun battle.
And to the original question.
My reading is the admirals cha bonus only effects squadron limit.
It is the commanders cha bonus that affects his squadrons moral.
Without moral the fleet battle takes quite a while with around 80 ships in the last battle.
I dunno, my players all enjoyed it and I don't remember it taking overly long. (But it's been a couple of years so I could easily be wrong)