Any major Retcon in Golarion?


Lost Omens Campaign Setting General Discussion


Hello Everyone
Have there ever been any major Retcons, or revising of the Golarion world on a grand scale. I've heard mixed opinions on old content being revised and retconed. For example I've heard that the old Dragons Revisited is no longer useful as the content has been retconed and also that some stuff was dropped between 3.5 and pathfinder like the Darklight Sisterhood. So is there any major lore rework that invalidate older books, or any conflicts between old and new lore?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

In pretty much every case where we've revised something on those lines, we've basically just stopped talking about the things we'd rather "phase out" of the world's canon. In some cases we changed some NPC names after realizing that the previous name was inappropriate for various reasons, but for the most part the philosophy has been to just ignore the parts we essentially want to go away from an official world canon standpoint. That means that folks who DO enjoy things like the Darklight Sisterhood can still use them in their versions of Golarion... they just won't be receiving any more official support.

I wouldn't call any of these things "major retcons on a grand scale," though.


James Jacobs wrote:

In pretty much every case where we've revised something on those lines, we've basically just stopped talking about the things we'd rather "phase out" of the world's canon. In some cases we changed some NPC names after realizing that the previous name was inappropriate for various reasons, but for the most part the philosophy has been to just ignore the parts we essentially want to go away from an official world canon standpoint. That means that folks who DO enjoy things like the Darklight Sisterhood can still use them in their versions of Golarion... they just won't be receiving any more official support.

I wouldn't call any of these things "major retcons on a grand scale," though.

Thank you for clarifying. It's nice to know there aren't any major lore conflicts between the 3.5 and Pathfinder lines. Dragons Revised looks to be rather interesting.

Any particular reason why groups like the Darklight Sisterhood were cut? Were there any other factions and such that were phased out?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Tsukiyomi wrote:
Any particular reason why groups like the Darklight Sisterhood were cut? Were there any other factions and such that were phased out?

Yes. Creative differences, basically. I wasn't fond of the flavor and themes of the Darklight Sisterhood. They seemed to only exist to be bad guys and had no motivation other than "we hate Pathfinders so let's be the anti-pathfinders." The Aspis Consortium does everything they did but does so better. They were, in a nutshell, an unnecessary and underdeveloped addition in my opinion, and in Erik Mona's opinion.

And the Creative Director and Publisher are pretty much paid for their opinions, and so out they went. Feel free to keep them in your game, but all the energy we would have put into them is better spent supporting the much more interesting Aspis Consortium.


James Jacobs wrote:
And the Creative Director and Publisher are pretty much paid for their opinions, and so out they went. Feel free to keep them in your game, but all the energy we would have put into them is better spent supporting the much more interesting Aspis Consortium.

Lucky, having one of the few jobs in which you can get paid for opinions and ideas. :) I definitely understand the motivation behind dropping them, and I'm glad the Aspis Consortium gobbled up all that creative energy. Thanks again Mr. James Jacobs for your time, and answering my questions. Golarion has become one of my favorite settings since I purchased the Inner Sea World Guide, and I look forward to purchasing more products both old and new :)

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