Wildshape and the Young / Giant Templates?

[Celestial_Chameleon]

I have been combing through the boards regarding this question. The only thing I could find was a post commented on by the guy who wrote the druid section of the apg.

The question on whether you can apply the young/giant templates to an animal to change its size with regards to the beast shape 1-3 lineup, popped up in the thread I was reading.

Jason Nelson(writer I was talking about) said that by RaW the rules state that you can't apply templates to an animal with regards to polymorphing into said modified animal. He then went on to say that it would not be to terribly game breaking to allow those templates to be applied to animals with regards to wildshape so as to give druids more options.

Link to the thread in question:

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2l5il?APG-Druid-Shaman-Wildshaping-Modifiers-Wh at#38

The reason I ask is because I have a friend that I will be playing pfs with regularly and she loves the idea of turning into a huge version of the Megaloceros, but there are no "huge" version of said animal. Thus the need to create one.

Is the template restriction on wildshape possible to be waived in this instance so she could wildshape into a huge megaloceros in the pfs setting?

Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated. And heck, if this is valid for pfs I might even try out wild shape as it does sound fun.

[miniaturepeddler]

Application of templates to wildshape is not an option in pfs play.
Do it all you want in home games.

[Celestial_Chameleon]

Robyn Nixon wrote:

Application of templates to wildshape is not an option in pfs play.

Do it all you want in home games.

If that is the case, I am just wondering how to handle the Eagle Shaman wildshape. It allows the transformation into a "Roc" but as per beast shape 1-3 lineup you cant turn into a gargantuan creature. Is that part of the wildshape ability for an eagle shaman to be ignored since the only way to make that choice legal via wildshape would be to decrease the size to huge? Wouldn't mind being an Aasimar Eagle shaman tbh now that I have pondered over the druid class. Just don't wana start playing something then get to "X" level then be told my character is invalid etc.

[asthyril]

as far as i can tell there is no way for a druid to wild shape into a roc.

would make a good question for the rules forum, so people could faq tag it.

[BigNorseWolf]

Celestial_Chameleon wrote:

Robyn Nixon wrote:

Application of templates to wildshape is not an option in pfs play.

Do it all you want in home games.

If that is the case, I am just wondering how to handle the Eagle Shaman wildshape. It allows the transformation into a "Roc" but as per beast shape 1-3 lineup you cant turn into a gargantuan creature.

You've just identified the problem with the shamans (except the saurian shaman)