Greater Weapon Finesse


Homebrew and House Rules


Before the flames begin, please note the following:

YES I have read the other billion threads on this feat being houseruled/homebrewed.

I am not looking for "this breaks strength because of MAD/SAD balance" issues. I understand your point of view. I disagree, and nothing will change my mind on that point. I think I have balanced it out by requiring pretty hefty feat taxes and anti-stat dumping penalties. But, it still falls fairly in line with other "Greater" feats.

What I DO seek is honest feedback, feat chain/ability breaking combinations I may not have thought of, what it will or won't work with due to semantic choices, questions on why I have chosen certain prerequisites or benefits, etc...

Greater Weapon Finesse (Combat)
Your focused training enhances damage through precision as opposed to brute strength.

Prerequisites: Proficiency with selected weapon, Weapon Finesse, Greater Weapon Focus (any Finessed Weapon), Greater Weapon Specialization (same Finessed Weapon as the Focus), Dexterity 19

Benefits: With a light weapon, rapier, whip, or spiked chain made for a creature your size category, you may use your Dexterity modifier in place of your Strength modifier for any ability or feat that alters melee damage rolls. This damage is not multiplied on critical hits unless specified by another ability or feat.

Special: If you have a negative modifier to Strength, subtract that modifier from the melee damage rolls.


hey you know what, i dig it. if anything the amount of feats it takes could be downsized a bit. don't forget there is a weapon property that allows you do this (plus dervish dance), and it's affordable at a way earlier point in a character build. note, i do like the strength penalty thing as a balance method. honestly you could probably get away with character level 7 or 8, weapon finesse, and weapon focus of selected weapon, maybe dex 19. As it is your feat has SEVEN feats in it's prerequisites, and that may be over kill.

anyway that my 2cp
The toaster


Yeah, maybe I'll drop the Greater Weapon Focus and Greater Specialization down to the normal versions. I really think Weapon Specialization needs to be included in a general feat of this type.

Dervish dance has way too many restrictions on it for what I'm creating. What's the weapon property, though? I don't think I searched Ultimate Equipment. That's the kind of feedback I need.

Liberty's Edge

d20pfsrd wrote:


Agile
Price +1 bonus
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 7th; Weight -

DESCRIPTION

This enhancement can only be placed on a melee weapon which is usable with the Weapon Finesse feat.

Agile weapons are unusually well balanced and responsive. A wielder with the Weapon Finesse feat can choose to apply her Dexterity modifier to damage rolls with the weapon in place of her Strength modifier. This modifier to damage is not increased for two-handed weapons, but is still reduced for off-hand weapons.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Magic Arms and Armor, cat's grace; Cost +1 bonus

Its not in Ultimate Equipment. Its in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide. Its the property some people wanted put in the core line.


Flamehawke wrote:
d20pfsrd wrote:


Agile
Price +1 bonus
Aura moderate transmutation; CL 7th; Weight -

DESCRIPTION

This enhancement can only be placed on a melee weapon which is usable with the Weapon Finesse feat.

Agile weapons are unusually well balanced and responsive. A wielder with the Weapon Finesse feat can choose to apply her Dexterity modifier to damage rolls with the weapon in place of her Strength modifier. This modifier to damage is not increased for two-handed weapons, but is still reduced for off-hand weapons.

CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS

Craft Magic Arms and Armor, cat's grace; Cost +1 bonus

Its not in Ultimate Equipment. Its in the Pathfinder Society Field Guide. Its the property some people wanted put in the core line.

Well, damn, that's EXACTLY what I'm looking for. And, eerily similar to how I wrote the feat out. Good to know I'm fairly on-point.

I wonder why it didn't make it into Ultimate Equipment if it's PFS legal?

Thanks, Flamehawke.

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