| Matthew Bellizzi |
So my group has just dealt with Nualia and crew. How things went down was that half of the PC's were trapped on one side of the hallway/portcullis trap with Nualia and Lyrie. While the other half were battling Brathazmus, Orik, Erylium, and Tsuto. The players who were dealing with Nualia and Lyrie were a summoner and two Varisian sisters one a rogue one a witch. The summoner kept Nualia on her ass with grease. The witch after hexing and debuffing Nualia decided to move into a position so the rogue could flank. After the rogue viciously (and critically) backstabbed Nualia Lyrie shattered the rogues masterwork rapier. Nualia casted her Sanctuary spell to stand up. Next round she used a villian point and did two attacks and killed the witch dead as a doornail. Things started to look desperate for Nualia and Lyrie as Nualia was at 1HP. Lyrie turned on her employer with burning hands and killed Nualia and begged for mercy. So we ended the session at that point with Lyrie who had shattered the rogues master rapier and helped the BBEG kill the rogues sister (Lyrie also pissed off the rogue by getting the killing blow in too).
So talking to the player who died he was ok with the character death in fact he was a little bored with the witch. He didn't have two hero points to cheat death so the witch is dead. One thing I pointed out is that there are two NPC's right there. The party is fairly melee heavy at the moment so he was not interested in playing Orik. However from a DMing point of view I could not think of a more awesome RP event than to have Lyrie join the party. Sorry that this has been a bit rambling but, to the point. What are your guy's thought's on this. To be honest I'm not too keen to have an evil player (I'm a fairly new GM...) I could of course change her alignment to CN or something. Also I'm not totally sure if this would upset the story line somewhere down the road.
One thing is sure... the paladin in the party is all about granting mercy at least initially. However the rogue has lets say other ideas.. Form the player and I quote "That Lyrie is gonna have an accident" and "It may not happen immediately but, Lyrie and I are going to having a meeting AND SHE"S GONNA DIE". On one level I feel pretty good about provoking such passion (and sin points) from my players. On the other hand I don't want to derail the story line.. Thoughts? Suggestions?
Mazra
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That was not too long at all. That battle sounded pretty epic. Thanks for sharing.
With a Paladin in the party, having a CE is about impossible. In my campaign Orik and Lyrie are NPCs that travel with the party. But the party leans somewhere between CG and CN, and I have softened Lyrie to lean more to CN, though she is still evil. As the GM, I enjoy roleplaying Lyrie. She can be interesting fun.
IMHO Lyrie would have to seriously change her stripes with a Paladin around. And whether Lyrie does change is up to you as the GM. If your player want to play Lyrie, I would say let him. But you would need to give him the back story and some kind of catalyst for change. In my campaign, Orik's love for Lyrie softened the bitter selfish woman.
Good gaming! And let us know how it turns out.
| Ven |
Sticky situation. As a DM I'm perfectly fine with converting an NPC to a PC, and with having some healthy party tension. Lyrie can slowly change her ways in an attempt to win-over her new "friends." But the rogue will certainly cause some pretty serious contention. Perhaps talking to her player and telling them that being loudly against Lyrie and her every action is acceptable RP but to, please, not try and kill her for the time being? Maybe later they can be frenemies?
I mean, she'll likely never be able to get over the death of her sister, but hey, resurrection is totally a thing.
| robin |
Just remember that , for the moment , Lyrie is NOT evil for the purpose of the detect evil spell .
So the paladin can indeed accept her in the group as long as she does not ACT evil.
And, frankly, if your rogue kills Lyrie in cold blood, I would seriously think about considering her evil. After all, it was Nuala who killed her sister.