Poison "cure"

[Peter Kies]

My ninja character is about to begin using some poisons, and I have a question about what happens when an opponent misses a save and then later is "cured" by making a subsequent save. Does that second save mean he is no longer taking damage (and must heal things like ability damage via the normal means - time or spells) - or are the effects totally removed, abilities back up to full, etc.? I had thought the former was correct, but the wording in the poison section of the PRD is "cured". The wording in the ability damage section says "unless otherwise noted, ability damage heals 1 point/day". Does "cured" in the poison section qualify as "otherwise noted"?

[Winterwalker]

Making the save stops further damage, but does not repair damage already done. To repair that depends on the type of damage done, but you are not instantly healed or cured by making a subsequent save.

[Peter Kies]

Thanks, that makes sense. The wording in the poison use section should really be clarified to say something like this. I looked at the related clerical spells and even Neutralize Poison does not remove the temporary ability damage. A Heal spell does, but it won't remove a permanent ability drain. For that Restoration is required. Making the save leaves the opponent far from "cured", IMO.

[Dreadmyst]

IMO they should call it resistance or something along those lines to make it more clear lol

[Joesi]

As far as I know damage is never restored. When one understands the concept of damage it shouldn't be an issue. Drain is perhaps slightly more ambiguous, but it's also just like damage; it's just harder to heal (doesn't heal naturally).

When one sees the term "penalty" that's when one should assume that the effects are restored/reverted upon removal.

[Garion Beckett]

I also have a question on curing poisons. All the examples in the rules are fortitude saves so far a spells but it's only like Neutralize Poison. Does lesser restoration work?