In a game I'm currently playing in Pathfinder (specifically one of the Inner Sea modules, not sure which one), I've gotten into an argument about the price of a construct. My argument is that as a high level wizard, I can create construct however I see fit (using standard rules for pathfinder, of course). So when I wanted to create a construct that works as armor for one my fellow players, who happens to be a Magus by the way, I thought this would be a great idea. Seeing as how there's already rules for modifying constructs for new abilities, hit dice by size, I wanted to create an Adamantine Golem for the Magus, which would necessitate my changing the size of the construct from its normal size of Huge down to Medium.
My thoughts are that since the construct is now created as a medium sized construct, instead of being a Huge construct, the price/cost of creating the construct should be decreased to indicate the lessened amount of materials needed to create it. However, some of my fellow players (though not the GM or the Magus in question) say that regardless of the size, an Adamantine Golem should cost the same to create regardless of size.
A Tiny adamantine Cobra shouldn't need as much materials or time/money to create as a Huge adamantine Cobra, so I should think the same would apply to creating the opposite effect, allowing me to create a smaller version of a standard construct and use less money for said creation
What are the rules for determining the price of a construct that's simply two size categories smaller, and is there really any reason why a Huge construct should cost just as much as it's medium sized version?
personal opinion:
you want that golem work as an armor? I would request it to cost atleast as much as the normal golem then if not even more
The size change can be dismissed at the fact that the whole would have to be created in a way that it still works while becoming basically a living armor, a process to make such a construct has to have its own problems and costs
be happy they don't ask twice or more money for it
I admit the idea is cool, but it reeks from being oveerpowered and easy to abuse, especially in regards if the golem could follow the orders of its maker instead of the one who wears it
personal opinion:
you want that golem work as an armor? I would request it to cost atleast as much as the normal golem then if not even moreThe size change can be dismissed at the fact that the whole would have to be created in a way that it still works while becoming basically a living armor, a process to make such a construct has to have its own problems and costs
be happy they don't ask twice or more money for it
I admit the idea is cool, but it reeks from being oveerpowered and easy to abuse, especially in regards if the golem could follow the orders of its maker instead of the one who wears it
Possibly, though in Ultimate Magic there's already a rule for making a construct work as armor by spending 35,000 GP to make a construst be used as armor.
As to the second, the construct doesn't act on its own when serving as armor, so technically only the wearer could control it once worn.
Thirdly, I just want to know what would change in order to create constructs of different sizes, price-wise. There's rules for the hit dice of different sized constructs, and I still can't understand why a Tiny Adamantine Cobra (20,000 GP) wouldn't cost more if it were instead made to be Huge sized, nor why it wouldn't be less if the opposite were done, and the construct were made smaller.
The game is already overpowered as it is (we have a summoner who's permanently fused with his Eidelon, which is already Huge, and he's been permanently enlarged soe he's already Garganguan sized.) I'm the Wish-Master Zenith Mindark Wizard, our cleric is a CN Demigod (which is somehow serving as his own domain, instead of following a god himself, still don't get that one). Our party tank (cough cough) is a Titan Mauler barbarian/two-handed fighter cross class with Ioun stones floating about his ankles (Another little wish I was able to procure, giving our Titan Mauler access to enough gestalt levels to gain 3rd-level spells to take on the Ioun Angel prestige class).
So as to being overpowered, yes, this campaign is VERY overpowered, and will only get moreso.
ah right, if its ultra high fantasy setting with gestalt classes then this is a no-issue, ask the GM to just hand-weave it
An excellent question, on I would happily raise as an issue for my Wizard to use (He's already cast wish to gain True Creation as one of his wizard spells, so GP is no longer ab issue to him), however, as broken as my character is, and this may seem silly to other people here, but I still prefer to pay for the the costs of the construct, so I'd like some ideas on what the cost would be to lower the size of a construct by two or three steps (an adamantine golem is huge, so two steps down is medium, though we've recently faced such a golem which was colossal, so I could just as easily create one that's also gargantuan). despite the fact that my wizard would simply cast enough gold into creation to pay for the costs of creating a golem.