Touch spells and 5 ft step


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A question came up in our last game and I have not been able to find a resolution.

Making a touch attack is a standard action. Casting a spell is a standard action, but you can make a touch attack as part of casting a spell, or hold the charge and make a touch attack later.

A person wanted to cast the spell, make a 5 ft step, and then make the touch attack. My question is will this work? I allowed it because I did not want to spend a lot of time researching it more than we already did.

To my understanding, you can make a 5 ft step in the middle of a full attack. With that mechanic you could assume it works with casting a spell too.

Since this is in PFS I need official rule quotes to justify statements, rather than opinions since I am not allowed to alter rules in PFS.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Terek

Liberty's Edge 1/5

"Touch Spells in Combat: Many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll."

Yes, it works to cast (standard), 5 foot step (non-action), touch with held spell (free in the same round).

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Terek wrote:

A question came up in our last game and I have not been able to find a resolution.

Making a touch attack is a standard action. Casting a spell is a standard action, but you can make a touch attack as part of casting a spell, or hold the charge and make a touch attack later.

A person wanted to cast the spell, make a 5 ft step, and then make the touch attack. My question is will this work? I allowed it because I did not want to spend a lot of time researching it more than we already did.

To my understanding, you can make a 5 ft step in the middle of a full attack. With that mechanic you could assume it works with casting a spell too.

Since this is in PFS I need official rule quotes to justify statements, rather than opinions since I am not allowed to alter rules in PFS.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,
Terek

Nevermind I found it

Core Rulebook 5th Printing page 185 wrote:


Touch Spells in Combat: Many spells have a range of
touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch
the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you
may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You
may take your move before casting the spell, after touching
the target, or between casting the spell and touching the
target
. You can automatically touch one friend or use the
spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must
succeed on an attack roll.

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Howie23 wrote:

"Touch Spells in Combat: Many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll."

Yes, it works to cast (standard), 5 foot step (non-action), touch with held spell (free in the same round).

Thanks Howie, sorry to make you look that up when I found it.

Liberty's Edge 4/5

Touch Spells in Combat: Many spells have a range of touch. To use these spells, you cast the spell and then touch the subject. In the same round that you cast the spell, you may also touch (or attempt to touch) as a free action. You may take your move before casting the spell, after touching the target, or between casting the spell and touching the target. You can automatically touch one friend or use the spell on yourself, but to touch an opponent, you must succeed on an attack roll.

found this in the PRD, under touch attack spells.
So he can do a full move after casting and than attack with it.
edit
I was only gone a few minutes. Had only one post when I started to look.

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