| Jay159 |
We just ran through the Seven Swords of Sin and inherited them. We sat with our GM and statted them out for fun. Also part of the party doesn't want to return them. The Sword of Greed and Lust are the canon stats, the others we made up based on the first two.
Sword of Greed
+5 Keen Heavy Scimitar
Hit: Slow
Critical: Flesh to Stone
Sword of Lust
+3 Flaming Longsword
Hit: Charm Monster
Critical: Hit Dominate Monster
Sword of Wrath
+5 Vicious Greatsword
Hit: Pain Strike
Critical: Chain Lightning
Sword of Gluttony
+3 Spell Storing Falchion
Hit: Bestow Curse
Critical: Energy Drain
Sword of Envy
+5 Defending Bastard Sword
Hit: Dispel Magic
Critical: Antimagic Field (Centered on the target)
Sword of Sloth
+2 Dancing Shortsword
Hit: Summon Monster III
Critical: Summon Monster VI
Sword of Pride
+3 Cunning Rapier
Hit: Phantasmal Killer
Critical: Weird
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I'm not very familiar with Seven Swords of Sin, but I'll check these out.
I don't know if you want to mess with canon, but waves of ecstasy (from Ultimate Magic) would be both hilarious and disturbing on the Sword of Lust. Charm person is decent but seems an odd choice since the target would always get a +5 to the save (see the spell description).
Chain lightning is fun but I'd swap it for disintegrate, that strikes me as more brutal and in line with what Wrath is all about.
It might be insane to put vampiric touch on it, but I think that would make more sense for Gluttony.
Sword of Envy is ridiculously powerful, thank goodness (or evilness) that it's not on an 18-20 crit. weapon. Antimagic field is much too good to let a fighter abuse, even on an artifact. It's only a 6th level spell for sorcerers and wizards because it messes them up worse than anyone else. I'm not sure what would be a better choice though. Maybe contagious flame or suffocation/mass suffocation from the APG?
Honestly, Sloth should have slow, it's more thematically appropriate. And how about waves of exhaustion for the crit?
I think overwhelming presence (also from Ultimate Magic) would be a better choice for Pride's crit. Smash someone down and then have everyone bask in your glory? Yes, please!
Jaryn Wildmane
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I'm not very familiar with Seven Swords of Sin, but I'll check these out.
I don't know if you want to mess with canon, but waves of ecstasy (from Ultimate Magic) would be both hilarious and disturbing on the Sword of Lust. Charm person is decent but seems an odd choice since the target would always get a +5 to the save (see the spell description).
Chain lightning is fun but I'd swap it for disintegrate, that strikes me as more brutal and in line with what Wrath is all about.
It might be insane to put vampiric touch on it, but I think that would make more sense for Gluttony.
Sword of Envy is ridiculously powerful, thank goodness (or evilness) that it's not on an 18-20 crit. weapon. Antimagic field is much too good to let a fighter abuse, even on an artifact. It's only a 6th level spell for sorcerers and wizards because it messes them up worse than anyone else. I'm not sure what would be a better choice though. Maybe contagious flame or suffocation/mass suffocation from the APG?
Honestly, Sloth should have slow, it's more thematically appropriate. And how about waves of exhaustion for the crit?
I think overwhelming presence (also from Ultimate Magic) would be a better choice for Pride's crit. Smash someone down and then have everyone bask in your glory? Yes, please!
The Seven Swords of Sin are actually weapons that correspond to the Seven Sin magics, so each is attuned to a certain school so the effect should correspond to the sin as well as the school.
Greed = Transmutation
Sloth = Conjuration
Gluttony = Necromancy
Wrath = Evocation
Lust = Enchantment
Pride = Illusion
Envy = Abjuration
The sword of greed for example, when its flesh to stone ability is successful the target is turned into valuable looking crystal instead of normal stone.
Jaryn Wildmane
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We are in the process of restatting the Sword of Sloth. Summon monster, while thematically appropriate, can be easily unbalanced.
Perhaps On a successful hit the sword summons a mage's faithful hound for two rounds. On a crit it could summon black tentacles into the space of the opponent that try to bind him.
| Remco Sommeling |
Fleshworm infestation and conjure black pudding for sloth ?
pain strike and hellfire ray for wrath ?
bestow curse and major curse for gluttony ?
dispel magic, greater dispel magic for envy ?
Gluttony could be a +3 falchion of wounding with healing thief and maximized vamperic touch. A lifestealer (falchion) with ghoul touch and maximized vamperic touch would be a good one too.
| Tels |
I used Seven Sword of Sin as a side-quest in between History of Ashes and Skeletons of Scarwall in the Curse of the Crimson Throne Adventure Path.
Unfortunately, the party got it's ass whooped when they tried to cross the lake on the boat. I ended up ending the campaign at this point because of several things, but this was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Anyway, there was a similar thread to this, here, in which I stated up a few of the swords.
They aren't perfectly accurate to their school themes, but I think they fit the theme well enough. If my campaign had continued, they would have been featured in the story beyond the module.