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Alright, so, with all of thePFO talk, I am totally thinking about my characters, and how I would want to play. The thing of it is that I am a WoW player. I have a character concept that only ever used to exist as a character for the World of Greyhawk. But, I started playing WoW years ago, and started the character in WoW. I've always written his character background (and short stories) as not being set in Azeroth (WoW), but rather in WoG .... But now I am thinking that I would like to make the pen and paper version of him fit into PFS.
The only problem is that he became a member of the Scarlet Crusade, which is a group of totally fanatical zealots that think that they are doing right and good, but, they are crusaders that often cause more harm than good. Its like the Spanish Inquisition x10. They're also comparable to the Light's army in Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series.
Anyway, I was wondering if there's anyone that would have an idea of what faction and whatnot to make this character for PFS. He's a paladin who fell away fro a typical knighthood, and went to join the bizarrely zealous Scarlet Crusade.
I would possibly say Aspis, but they're not playable. Or possibly the Silver Crusade (which I can't help but associate with the Argent Crusade in WoW), but they're not really the right kind of freakishly violent and over the top. I wish I could mesh the Silver Crusade, Nazi's and the Spanish Inquisition, and that would be them.
So, any suggestions on making this character into a "real" character, instead of just an online one?
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You might want to read up on the Hellknights. They're most closely associated with the Cheliax faction.
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Interesting that you both went straight to Cheliax. I'd considered the Hellknights, but I'm not quite certain that they're the right flavor. I already have a Hellknight incidentally! Though he doesn't have a backstory yet. I tend to play LN characters.
The other problem is that I am not certain that I want to go with the Asmodeus thing. It's also interesting that the Scarlet Crusade was briefly ruled by a demon in disguise, but the Scarlet Crusade didn't really know that. I kind of wonder if I might not have to end up using Cheliax since they are close to the right flavor, but, it's the whole demon-worship stereotype that concerns me. He ought to be a devout worshipper of good stuff. .... Also, he was originally intended to be a Hunter of the Dead (PRC).
Also, I'm not certain how well a paladin would convert to an Inquisitor. I've never played one.
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Read Pathfinder Tales: Prince of Wolves.
So perhaps an Inquisitor of Iomedae from Lastwall?
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How has the Mendevian Crusade not been mentioned yet? They're the paladins who fight to protect the world from the Worldwound, a noble and self-sacrificing goal, but over time, many elements of the Mendevian Crusade have grown more and more extreme. Now some of their inquisitors have moved to horrifying extremes (like genociding Iobarian natives who practice druidic beliefs) all in the name of "good".
The inhabitants of Mendev are a strange mixture of peoples ranging from high-minded gallants to back-alley thugs. While many of the land's inhabitants were swept here in the fanatic zeal of one of the crusades, many are natives of this land whose families lived here long before the crusaders' arrival. These people, the native Iobarians, had much in common culturally with the neighbouring kingdom of Sarkoris, now the Worldwound. The Iobarian inhabitants tend to be treated as second class citizens by the crusaders, as they still practice their ancient druidic faith. This, unfortunately, makes them suspicious to the zealous crusaders of more traditional religions, and has lead to many Iobarians burning at the stake for their heretical beliefs. In fact, most of the Third Mendevian Crusade seemed more focused on burning and purging heretics than it did on driving back the actual demonic denizens of the Worldwound. This suspicion is further fueled by the fact that Sarkoris was rife with cults dedicated to the demon lord Deskari, cults Aroden himself hunted down and destroyed during the Age of Enthronement.[2][6]
The other more recent inhabitants of Mendev are the crusaders. They still arrive weekly by the boat load, streaming in from across the Lake of Mists and Veils. The arriving crusaders are an odd assortment. During the First Mendevian Crusade, those who sought to fight the invading demons were generally the most high-minded, virtuous people of the southern lands: clerics of good deities and noble paladins. However, by the Fourth Mendevian Crusade, the quality of crusaders had deteriorated. Many mercenaries flocked to fight in this seemingly endless war, and they now outnumber the truly sincere crusaders. This situation is made worse by the fact that many southern nations now see the Mendevian Crusades as little more than a convenient dumping ground for political dissidents, thugs, criminals and other undesirables. Now the true heroes who seek to stem the demonic tide flowing from the north are outnumbered and surrounded by mercenaries, thugs, displaced criminals and demons
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Well, it was posted in the PFS forums, because I was specifically looking for a PFS-legal storyline ... But, apparently that's not PFS enough for the forums, and it got translocated to the conversion forums. So much for getting hits from the PFS on this one.
Im reading up on the Mendevian thing (though I'm uncertain about making him a demon-hunter), and looking into the "Prince of Wolves".
Any other suggestions for the story?
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So ... I really like the Mendevian Crusade, but, I definately don't see it fitting because of the demon-hunting thing. I always saw him being more against undead. If I can't find a better option, I may have to just settle on changing the story thus far.
Lastwall ... I can't exactly find where that's even located. My search-fu must be weak.
Lastly, I'm not entirely certain that Asmodeus is legal in PFS, is he? Can we worship him as long as we don't personally have an Evil alignment? Still, I kind of like him more as Good, just way overly zealous to the point that he doesn't get along with others well. I don't want to get into the whole paladin-alignment stuff that's been on the forums so much lately, but, I want him to be very, very anti-undead, and somewhat intolerant. I can't really see it being an issue for PFS very often, but, if it were, I would be the nice guy and play a different character if there were a undead-type player around.
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Alrighty ... so, with thanks to Mike for the location of Lastwall ...
Holy Crud! Lastwall is a country??!! How have I not ever heard of this place! And it's greatest purpose is fighting against undead? Wow!! That's seemingly perfect! I just looked the place up in the Inner Sea World Guide, and it seems to fit a lot!!
So ... any thoughts on what faction I ought to choose? What's a guy from Lastwall diong in Absalom, and what's he doing as a Pathfinder? I mean, he's obviously sticking to his guns about fighting undead, but, what would bring him away from the Ustalev front? And who's he interested in helping?
Faction suggestions?
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Mike ... I can clearly see why you're the Campaign Coordinator. You're hitting this stuff right on the head. I took about a year off from PFS (right after the Year of the Shadow Lodge interactive at Comicpalooza in Houston) and moved and such, and am just now getting back into the groove of it. So, I'm not really up on all these factions. I can't help but think that the Silver Crusade is a pretty good one for this PC.
Moving forward ... I'm looking for tips on deities. I know there's several Good aligned gods and such that would sponsor a holy character, but, I'm at a loss as to which one to choose. I've always written the character to worship "The Light", or the deity Pholtus from the World of Greyhawk. It's fairly generic, but, I also liked Pelor who's a sun deity that is also strongly anti-undead. I tend to like Serenrae for this reason, but, Iomedae seems to work as well - mostly because she led the Shining Crusade. Are there other deities that have a thing against undead or might be a "sun" deity?
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Alrighty ... so, with thanks to Mike for the location of Lastwall ...
Holy Crud! Lastwall is a country??!! How have I not ever heard of this place! And it's greatest purpose is fighting against undead? Wow!! That's seemingly perfect! I just looked the place up in the Inner Sea World Guide, and it seems to fit a lot!!So ... any thoughts on what faction I ought to choose? What's a guy from Lastwall diong in Absalom, and what's he doing as a Pathfinder? I mean, he's obviously sticking to his guns about fighting undead, but, what would bring him away from the Ustalev front? And who's he interested in helping?
Faction suggestions?
I thought Lastwall would work for ya! I would definitely suggest reading Prince of Wolves as well. Its a good book, so you should enjoy it for more than just the one scene.
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I thought Lastwall would work for ya! I would definitely suggest reading Prince of Wolves as well. Its a good book, so you should enjoy it for more than just the one scene.
You know, Andrew, it's funny ... I was just in the middle of typing a PM to you, thanking you for suggesting it, since it seemed that you really got the idea of the type of character that I was looking to build. You hit it right on the head.
I may have to take the time to pick up "Prince of Wolves" in a PDF, or Kindle, or whatever format if it's available so that I can read it on a portable device. I'm reading Dance With Dragons right now, but, I think that before I play this character, I will certainly try to work Lastwall into his history.OMG!! And I get a *chronicle* for reading it for one of my characters?!! Zoom!!
It's actually interesting, in his story, he "fell" from the worship of his previous deity, and converted and moved to where the Scarlet Brotherhood is. So, I think that I am going to not make him from Lastwall, but, moved there when he fled another nation, and became so zealous about being a paladin.
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Another possibility would be to have been born in Geb and rescued by a Cleric of Pharasma from Nex or some such, saving you from a life of cattlehood.
With the proper real-world knowledge (Played or GMed the appropriate scenario), you could even come up with the name of such a Cleric who has been noted as rescuing (or trying to rescue) Gebite humans.
In such a case, Pharasma as the deity, and Andoran (freeing slaves) as the Faction, might work, as well.
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Kristopf,
I think you have a very interesting character concept, that of the over zelous crusader who is willing to do anything in service to his cause, and someone for whom the ends justify the means.
I would suggest Andoran over the Silver crusade. At least my sense of the factions, is that the Andorans tend towards CG, and they are willing to do lots of things "for the cause of liberty".
I am not sure about the Silver Crusade, but from factions missions i have seen from playing, most of the missions involve helping others. The sense i get is that the faction tends to be LG.
I also think an Inquisitor would be an excellent expression of your character concept, more so then a Paladin, in my opinion. An Inquisitor is open to more alignments then just LG.
As for a god, there is a harsh side to Iomedae, a harsh side to Abadar, and a very harsh side to Sarenrae.
I hope this helps
Myles