I would recommend;
Curse of the Crimson Throne,
King Maker
Rise Of The Runelords or
The Jade Regent
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Runelords hardcover if you wanna stick to the PF ruleset, if 3.5 is an option Shackled City and Crimson Throne are solid and straight forward unlike Kingmaker/SS/JR which are a bit complicated.
If your wife, like many women gamers really digs the roleplaying and npcs over dungeon crawling, Council of Thieves for sure.
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CotCT is pretty straight forward and fun. The conversion from 3.5 to Pathfinder is pretty simple (mostly just have to worry about CMB/CMDs for NPCs).
Of course if you're going to be a player in her CotCT game, you'll have to play oblivious since you've already played it. Shrug.
If you wanted to have her run something you haven't played, I'd recommend RotRL. That's another fun one (still 3.5 conversion though) and we only got through 1 1/2 books of the series.
I'd push one of those 2 since they're pretty straight forward.
Kingmaker may have some additional rules, but wow it is an awesome game. It really is one of the easiest to run adventures I've done, and even the kingdom building is simple. Even better is that there is the Book of the River Nations book, that she can just hand the PC's and virtually it will run itself.
Rise of the runelords is great and if you pick up the hardcover that'd be a good one to run and with no conversions should be a breeze. My group loved just about all of it, especially the early books though. Runelords can be complicated in spots, but the story flows well.
Definitely no to Second Darkness though. I'd mine it for ideas, but from what I've read and asked about it, its somewhat broken. IMHO
I did start running the Curse of the Crimson Throne and it has some really neat stuff in it, seems dungeon heavy but fun, has some great politicing.
My vote is for kingmaker I'm running that right now. And if she wants to see how it might go she can look on my player's adventure logs here:
http://www.obsidianportal.com/campaigns/kingmaker-lures-of-majesty
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Well SS #1 makes a fantastic one-shot if she wants to run that until the anniversary edition of RotRL comes out. SS #2 is kind of bland if you don't add in more of the "race" aspects, but you could easily run that too, wrapping the campaign up once you find the lost city.
EDIT: *or* she could take a stab at running all of SS, but I wouldn't highly recommend it to a first timer. Books 2 and 3 require a bit of work to make them really "pop". They're run-able, but kind of boring as written. Shrug.
Well just to mention, the story between the 3.5 and Pathfinder RotRL won't change. Just the stats, which isn't a big deal anyways if ya'll use the monsters from the bestiary.
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He's played Council of Thieves up to book 5. I think that was one of the conditions he mentioned: his wife wouldn't run something he's already played.
I was thinking that would be a good one too though.
How was LoF? I don't own it myself. Easy to run?
I was rethinking SS #1 and -even though it's a blast to play- it could get complicated for a first time GM juggling NPC castaways, diseases, weather, events and food along with running encounters.
Also consider starting with the "Price of Immortality" module trilogy, then shift to RotRL hardcover once it's out.
Also consider starting with the "Price of Immortality" module trilogy, then shift to RotRL hardcover once it's out.
I recently purchased the Price of Immortality trilogy (Crypt of the Everflame, Masks of the Living God, and City of Golden Death) and they are phenomenal looking adventures. Since they are designed to run well as stand alones the bridging material can stand to be smoothed out a bit but otherwise they look great. I'll be starting them on Saturday in my very first Pathfinder game.
I'd recommend them as a means of easing into DMing since they seem almost tailor designed for new DMs. Once those are done with jumping into any of the APs should be easy.
It's important to get the hang of DMing, I think, before jumping into something as intimidating as an AP. I ran Shackled City through to completion a couple years ago so I understand the investment.
I disagree that adventure paths are too daunting for first time GMs, i ran serpent's skull as first timer and it was a blast (i changed a crap load too, partially due to party choices and partly due to GM ideas:). an adventure path is great to learn on.
I disagree that adventure paths are too daunting for first time GMs, i ran serpent's skull as first timer and it was a blast (i changed a crap load too, partially due to party choices and partly due to GM ideas:). an adventure path is great to learn on.
Perhaps they are not then. The whole things seems like it would be intimidating for a noob but awesome that you did it without issue. It makes sense from a certain standpoint too because it gives you as a DM so much to work with and makes the players get invested too. It just seems like it would have intimidated the hell out of me as a new DM. I've run a few epic length stories since then including a Dark Sun game that culminated in City by the Silt Sea (levels 3-15) and the Dragonlance Saga (levels 1-18) during 2nd Edition and an adaptation of Dragon Mountain (levels 10-20) in 3E and then Shackled City (levels 1-20) in 3.5 so I understand the investment.
I'm running the Price of Immortality to test out a group of players I've never gamed with before and if they aren't annoying of flakey I'll be putting them up against an AP (probably the revamp of Rise of the Runelords) so I'm curious what the final decision for this thread is and how it goes. :D
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He's played Council of Thieves up to book 5. I think that was one of the conditions he mentioned: his wife wouldn't run something he's already played.
I was thinking that would be a good one too though.
How was LoF? I don't own it myself. Easy to run?I was rethinking SS #1 and -even though it's a blast to play- it could get complicated for a first time GM juggling NPC castaways, diseases, weather, events and food along with running encounters.
Did I miss a post somewhere? I can't see anywhere in the thread where he said which ones he's already played o.O
LoF is meh, and also 3.5 and if 3.5 isn't a big deal Shackled City, the first AP is still available in hardcover in places and still one of the best APs of all time.
Well...She's decided. She wants to run Skull & Shackles.
Brilliant choice!!. i also eagerly anticipate that one:)
Well...She's decided. She wants to run Skull & Shackles.
Of course she did, girls love pirates. Or is that just my girl?