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So. During the APG playtest, I played a Summoner up to lvl 3. When the APG was released, the rules for the Summoner changed, so that my character build was no longer viable. I was supposed to rebuild my character with the APG rules before playing him again, but somehow he ended up on the shelf, as other characters pushed him aside, and he hasn't seen play since the summer of 2010.
Now, I'm about to dust him off again, an so I have to rebuild him. My question is: Can I rebuild him with all current rules, including Ultimate Magic?
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Here is the relevant section from the Addl Resources page:
Pathfinder RPG Advanced Player's Guide
All playtest versions of the six new base classes from this book are no longer legal for play as of 8/3/10. Anyone playing the playtest version of one of the six new base classes must have updated his or her character as of 8/3/10. Updating your character means adjusting only the things that have changed, but not rebuilding the character.
(I suspect you are ok with not having updated your character so long as you haven't played him since then)
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It was my understanding that if only minor changes affected your character, you should only change those at the end of the playtest, but if major changes rendered your character concept unattainable, you could rebuild your character. I certainly was told at the time that I should rebuild the character. Have the rebuild rules changed?
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From the Guidelines for conversions due to changing rules thread:
If a class, prestige class changes, or a class-feature-dependent Ability score is altered:
You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.
I take this to mean that if you're affected by significant class changes, you can rebuild your character. Am I wrong?
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looking at the thread, if the casting stat did change, you can rebuild. now, i didn't see it clarified to me in the post, but to me "rebuild" means, in your case, making a new 3rd level summoner of the same race, but with all other character options up for change (ability scores, skills, feats, etc.) with the exception of equipment. also, you would be limited to choices that were allowed at the time that the APG was released.
i'm sure there are some who would take "Rebuild" to mean that their human summoner can suddenly become a gnome barbarian, but that's not how i read it. you may want to do a quick search to see if that's been clarified, and ask if you don't find anything conclusive.
Director of Brand Strategy
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From the Guidelines for conversions due to changing rules thread:
I take this to mean that if you're affected by significant class changes, you can rebuild your character. Am I wrong?If a class, prestige class changes, or a class-feature-dependent Ability score is altered:
You may rebuild your character to its current XP, maintaining the same equipment.
The quoted text was meant to refer to something that had previously been released in a "final" form. In that case, I believe it was that the Hellknight PrC changed fairly significantly from one book to another reprint.
Playtests are to be converted as minimally as possible. In the case of the summoner, its primary casting stat has always been Charisma, and only the specific functions of class abilities changed. If you want to use archetypes or feats from UM or another source, you'll need to apply those to the character after it's been updated, and then only if you qualify for those alternate rules.
If, however, we altered the summoner class significantly now, a year and a half after its final, official version was released, you'd get to rebuild it. But from playtest to final rules should be a very minimal conversion.
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I made a summoner in the playtest that was focused on the eidolon interacting with the creatures summoned from the summon monster ability. It can no longer do this. To make the character as close to the old one as possible, I would have to remake him as a Master Summoner archetype. Is that legal?
if the archetype was from a book that was released after the APG, then only if the first archetype power replaces a class feature that you get at 4th level or higher.
thus are the perils of making a playtest character.
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Director of Brand Strategy
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Had the character been converted immediately upon release of the APG, which is what the playtest update rules assume, the master summoner archetype would not have been available. Thus, it's not a valid conversion. Since the summoner class itself permits an eidolon to fully rebuild itself each time the PC gains a level, the eidolon can be rebuilt to be something other than one that interacts with summoned creatures.
Edit: I really don't want to set a precedent with this particular instance in which we encourage people to wait to update playtest content until over a year down the road in the hopes that they'll be able to use other content that otherwise wouldn't have been available had the PC been updated immediately upon final release of the playtested rules.