Comments? Suggestions? Changes?
Brigand:
Alignment: Any Non-Lawful
Hit Die: d8
Class Skills: Acrobatics, Bluff, Climb, Craft, Disguise, Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Knowledge(Local), Knowledge(Dungeoneering), Perception, Profession, Ride, Stealth, Survival
Skill Points: 4+Int
Weapon and Armor Prof: All Simple, Small and Medium Martial Weapons. Light Armor, Medium Armor, and Small Shields
BAB 1st Lvl: +0
BAB 20th lvl: +19/+14/+9/+4
1: F1/R1/W0 - Improved Bluff
2: F2/R1/W0 - Sneak Attack +1d6
3: F2/R2/W1 - Evasion; Eyes of Fury
4: F3/R2/W1 - Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
5: F3/R2/W1 - Sneak Attack +2d6, Bravery 1
6: F4/R3/W2 - Fearsome Appearance
7: F4/R3/W2 - Sneak Attack +3d6
8: F5/R3/W2 – Improved Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
9: F5/R4/W3 - Sneak Attack +4d6, Infamous
10: F6/R4/W3 - Commanding Presence, Fighter Training, Bravery 2
11: F6/R4/W3 - Bonus Feat
12: F7/R5/W4 – Rogue Talent
13: F7/R5/W4 - Sneak Attack +5d6
14: F8/R5/W4 - Bonus Feat
15: F9/R6/W4 - Sneak Attack +6d6, Bravery 3
16: F10/R6/W4 – Rogue Talent
17: F10/R6/W4 - Bonus Feat
18: F11/R8/W4 - Sneak Attack +7d6
19: F11/R8/W4 – Rogue Talent
20: F12/R8/W4 - Sneak Attack +8d6, Bravery 4, Improved Commanding Presence
Eyes of Fury: At will, a Brigand of 3rd lvl may fix enemies with a stern gaze, causing those who fail a Will save(DC 10+Cha bonus)to become Shaken.
Fearsome Appearance: Opponents must make a Will Save(10+ Cha bonus) to make an attack of opportunity against a 6th level brigand.
Improved Bluff: The Brigand receives a +4 to her Bluff skill.
Bonus Feat:
Chosen from the Fighter’s list of Combat Feats
Infamous: You gain a +4 bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate checks in a particular city or among a certain organization(Chosen at time this ability is gained, and never changed).
Commanding Presence: At will, a Brigand who reaches 10th level may frighten enemies who fail a Will Save(DC 10+ Cha bonus). Opponents who fail are Frightened.
Improved Commanding Presence: As above, except Frightened becomes Panicked.
I recognize that right away: it's derived from the Kingdoms of Kalamar Player's Guide (D&D v.3.0). I'm not sure the original is OGL - did you check that?
If I were to "Pathfinderize" this I would definitely correct the BAB and F/R/W values to conform with the (best fitting of the) standard progressions used in PF. That said, IIRC Monte Cook had an intermediate saving throw progression in Arcana Evolved that is OGL: from levels 1 to 20 is as follows: +1, +2, +2, +2, +3, +3, +4, +4, +4, +5, +5, +6, +6, +6, +7, +7, +8, +8, +8, +9 (it is the closest one can get to being between good saves and poor saves). This intermediate progression for F/R/W isn't wonky like those of the Brigand for KoK, and maybe usable for a PF version of the Brigand if that fits what you'd like to do.
How about BAB = PF Fighter BAB, F/R/W = Intermediate/intermiadiate/poor? Then, just as the Barbarian HD @ 1d12 is an exception, keep the Brigand's HD @ 1d8, as an exception. You could probably keep the rest as you've done, but I say that not having time tonight to look over the combinations and permutations.
Starfinder Charter Superscriber
It's difficult to say whether the class is OGL or not, since KenzerCo. didn't specify. In fact, the book is in violation of the OGL by not having a copy of the license printed in it...
EDIT: Or at least that's how I always read the license.
The third edition Kingdoms of Kalamar books were released by Kenzer under a special licence they acquired from WotC that allowed them to produce Kingdoms of Kalamar as official Dungeons & Dragons material, using the Dungeons & Dragons logo. Thus, the third edition Kingdoms of Kalamar books have no OGL content, and no need to have a copy of the OGL printed in them.
Hey, thanks Winterthorn for the feedback. I really appreciate it. So how's this look then? BAB and Saves changed.
Brigand:
Alignment: Any Non-Lawful
Hit Die: d8
Class Skills: Acrobatics, Bluff, Climb, Craft, Disguise, Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Knowledge(Local), Knowledge(Dungeoneering), Perception, Profession, Ride, Stealth, Survival
Skill Points: 4+Int
Weapon and Armor Prof: All Simple, Small and Medium Martial Weapons. Light Armor, Medium Armor, and Small Shields
BAB 1st Lvl: +1
BAB 20th lvl: +20/+15/+10/+5
1: F1/R1/W0 - Improved Bluff
2: F2/R2/W0 - Sneak Attack +1d6
3: F2/R2/W1 - Evasion; Eyes of Fury
4: F2/R2/W1 - Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
5: F3/R3/W1 - Sneak Attack +2d6, Bravery 1
6: F3/R3/W2 - Fearsome Appearance
7: F4/R4/W2 - Sneak Attack +3d6
8: F4/R4/W2 – Improved Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
9: F4/R4/W3 - Sneak Attack +4d6, Infamous
10: F5/R5/W3 - Commanding Presence, Fighter Training, Bravery 2
11: F5/R5/W3 - Bonus Feat
12: F6/R6/W4 – Rogue Talent
13: F6/R6/W4 - Sneak Attack +5d6
14: F6/R6/W4 - Bonus Feat
15: F7/R7/W4 - Sneak Attack +6d6, Bravery 3
16: F7/R7/W4 – Rogue Talent
17: F8/R8/W4 - Bonus Feat
18: F8/R8/W4 - Sneak Attack +7d6
19: F8/R8/W4 – Rogue Talent
20: F9/R9/W4 - Sneak Attack +8d6, Bravery 4, Improved Commanding Presence
Eyes of Fury: At will, a Brigand of 3rd lvl may fix enemies with a stern gaze, causing those who fail a Will save(DC 10+Cha bonus)to become Shaken.
Fearsome Appearance: Opponents must make a Will Save(10+ Cha bonus) to make an attack of opportunity against a 6th level brigand.
Improved Bluff: The Brigand receives a +4 to her Bluff skill.
Bonus Feat:
Chosen from the Fighter’s list of Combat Feats
Infamous: You gain a +4 bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate checks in a particular city or among a certain organization(Chosen at time this ability is gained, and never changed).
Commanding Presence: At will, a Brigand who reaches 10th level may frighten enemies who fail a Will Save(DC 10+ Cha bonus). Opponents who fail are Frightened.
Improved Commanding Presence: As above, except Frightened becomes Panicked.
Also, what do you guys think of this frenzy/rage type thing? No good for the Brigand? Once again, I more or less explain this frenzy/rage as a brawler. A Tank Abbot-style fighter. More reckless than the barbarian, but can be put down more easily as well. Does this belong with the Brigand or does it feel out of place/character?
Reckless Fervor: 3rd Level, lasts for 4 rounds + con modifier. The brigand can call upon inner reserves of intimidation and reckless ferocity, granting him additional combat prowess at the cost of his own safety. For every level the brigand possesses beyond 3rd, the brigand can stay in this state for one additional round. The first attack made by the brigand in this state is granted a bonus of +4 hit, damage, and to confirm critical and -2 armor class for the duration. If the first attack is missed, the fervor immediately ends. For every kill, the brigand gains an additional +1 to hit and damage but also takes an additional point of damage from enemies. Each bonus is cumulative. For each time the brigand hits and damages an enemy or every time the brigand takes damage the fervor can ignore the effects of missing.
Unending Fervor: 10th Level, Brigand gains Unending Fervor, increasing the duration of Reckless Fervor by 1 round per confirmed kill, and each kill resets to the initial +4 bonus to hit, damage, and critical confirmation and stacks with the bonus damage from each confirmed kill.
A minor technical issue: there is no such thing as small and medium weapons. I assume that you mean light and one-handed martial weapons? If so, then Brigand lacks proficiency in bows of any sort.
Ha, thanks Drejk. Good eye. I'll edit the post to reflect.
Brigand:
Alignment: Any Non-Lawful
Hit Die: d8
Class Skills: Acrobatics, Bluff, Climb, Craft, Disguise, Diplomacy, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Knowledge(Local), Knowledge(Dungeoneering), Perception, Profession, Ride, Stealth, Survival
Skill Points: 4+Int
Weapon and Armor Prof: All Simple and Martial. Light Armor, Medium Armor, and Small Shields
BAB 1st Lvl: +1
BAB 20th lvl: +20/+15/+10/+5
1: F1/R1/W0 - Improved Bluff
2: F2/R2/W0 - Sneak Attack +1d6
3: F2/R2/W1 - Evasion; Eyes of Fury
4: F2/R2/W1 - Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
5: F3/R3/W1 - Sneak Attack +2d6, Bravery 1
6: F3/R3/W2 - Fearsome Appearance
7: F4/R4/W2 - Sneak Attack +3d6
8: F4/R4/W2 – Improved Uncanny Dodge, Rogue Talent
9: F4/R4/W3 - Sneak Attack +4d6, Infamous
10: F5/R5/W3 - Commanding Presence, Fighter Training, Bravery 2
11: F5/R5/W3 - Bonus Feat
12: F6/R6/W4 – Rogue Talent
13: F6/R6/W4 - Sneak Attack +5d6
14: F6/R6/W4 - Bonus Feat
15: F7/R7/W4 - Sneak Attack +6d6, Bravery 3
16: F7/R7/W4 – Rogue Talent
17: F8/R8/W4 - Bonus Feat
18: F8/R8/W4 - Sneak Attack +7d6
19: F8/R8/W4 – Rogue Talent
20: F9/R9/W4 - Sneak Attack +8d6, Bravery 4, Improved Commanding Presence
Eyes of Fury: At will, a Brigand of 3rd lvl may fix enemies with a stern gaze, causing those who fail a Will save(DC 10+Cha bonus)to become Shaken.
Fearsome Appearance: Opponents must make a Will Save(10+ Cha bonus) to make an attack of opportunity against a 6th level brigand.
Improved Bluff: The Brigand receives a +4 to her Bluff skill.
Bonus Feat:
Chosen from the Fighter’s list of Combat Feats
Infamous: You gain a +4 bonus to Diplomacy and Intimidate checks in a particular city or among a certain organization(Chosen at time this ability is gained, and never changed).
Commanding Presence: At will, a Brigand who reaches 10th level may frighten enemies who fail a Will Save(DC 10+ Cha bonus). Opponents who fail are Frightened.
Improved Commanding Presence: As above, except Frightened becomes Panicked.
Also, what do you guys think of this frenzy/rage type thing? No good for the Brigand? Once again, I more or less explain this frenzy/rage as a brawler. A Tank Abbot-style fighter. More reckless than the barbarian, but can be put down more easily as well. Does this belong with the Brigand or does it feel out of place/character?
Reckless Fervor: 3rd Level, lasts for 4 rounds + Con modifier. The brigand can call upon inner reserves of intimidation and reckless ferocity, granting him additional combat prowess at the cost of his own safety. For every 2 levels the brigand possesses beyond 3rd, the brigand can stay in this state for one additional round. The first attack made by the brigand in this state is granted a bonus of +4 hit, damage, and to confirm critical and -2 armor class for the duration. If the first attack is missed, the fervor immediately ends. For every kill, the brigand gains an additional +1 to hit and damage but also takes an additional point of damage from enemies. Each bonus is cumulative. For each time the brigand hits and damages an enemy or every time the brigand takes damage the fervor can ignore the effects of missing.
Unending Fervor: 10th Level, Brigand gains Unending Fervor, increasing the duration of Reckless Fervor by 1 round per confirmed kill, and each kill resets to the initial +4 bonus to hit, damage, and critical confirmation and stacks with the bonus damage from each confirmed kill.
Now, as I asked in my previous version of this post before I moved it to the Conversions section, do you guys feel the Eyes of Fury, Fearsome Appearance and Commanding Presence should be DC 10+1/2 Brigand Level+Cha Bonus?
And if that's the case -- the ORIGINAL Brigand has these 3 abilities as AT WILL.
That seems pretty ridiculous, right?
Should be X times per day, yes?
-Von
I would rework them into modifications of demoralize mechanics instead of special attacks. This would introduce limiting mechanics - each attempt to demoralize the same target has it's DC increased by 5, reseting after 1 hour.
For example
Eyes Of Fury: Brigand can use demoralize as a move action.
Fearsome Appeareance: Opponents demoralized by Brigand can't make attacks of opportunity against him.
Commanding Presence: Brigand may take a -5 penalty to his demoralize check to make the target frightened instead of shaken.
Improved Commanding Presence: Brigand may take a -10 penalty to his demoralize check to make the target paniced instead of shaken.
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