Our Curse of the Crimson Throne Campaign is coming to an end - or at least the end is near enough that I should spend some thinking on our next campaign. One of the options is: staying in Korvosa. My players love the city, the NPCs, and over the time they really got used to Korvosa. So I am wondering if it would be possible to convert The Great City AP to the Korvosa setting.
I know it's somehow generic, but:
# How similar are both APs? CotCT is about an evil monarch, civil unrest and the saving of a city. And as far as I can see from the descriptions of the Great City modules this AP looks topicwise a bit the same. So if I don't want to run the same plot again - is The Great City the right AP for me and group (especially as I changed Crown of Fangs from a dungeon crawl adventure to some kind of civil war/rebellion adventure)?
# Are there some major adventure parts which require buildings/institutions/whatever which Korvosa doesn't have?
# If I decide to run The Great City AP aftwards are there plot seeds I should plant already in the last chapter of CoftC? (For example: Who will be king after Ileosa)
# Is there alreay a pathfinder conversion of this AP? I know, it was talked about in some threads here in the forums, but I'm not sure what the outcome was. And on a scale from 1 to 10 how many work will it be to change the Great City to Korvosa?
# After all: Can you recommend The Great City AP? The reviews are quite good but can it keep up with the Paizo stuff?
Thanks for your thoughts!
Exeter
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I can recommend the Great City AP, though I do not think it would fit with Korvosa AFTER COCT.
Because basically, you'll be doing a lot of the same, and then the Great City is scaled, you'd have to rewrite all the encounters for higher level play.
There is a Pathfinder conversion, which I think you can get for free from Paizo.
I think it deserves its own campaign rather than being done after COCT.
Best,
Okay, thanks for your opinion. What I missed to mention is, that we would play the Great City AP with new PCs. And the events would take place some time after CotCT, with perhaps the old PCs popping up here or there but now as NPCs.
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I think you'd better off using the original premise of the Great City and make it a far-off colony of Imperial Cheliax, possibly on a isle near the ruins of Azlant, or an big isle off map west of mediogalti, but before Azlant, and have the menace of "possible war with elves" as a background threat.
It could work also for an alternate version of Sargava before they split from the Empire.
I am currently reviewing the final parts of the Great City Road to Revolution and I think they rock. I'd suggest you run RtR before CoCT if you want to run it in Korvosa. (Although CotC is imho worse than RtR, which is basically my benchmark for good urban adventures...)
Thanks for your input! Unfortunately, running RtR before CotCT is not an option anymore, as we are right now in the middle of Skeletons of Scarwall... ;)
My basic idea with RtR was to take it and kind of alter it into an follow-up campaign which would put an end to loose ends from CotCT. I know, that's a lot of work. But the only question is: Is it worth it? Me and my group, we all like Korvosa and its setting. And I fear playing just another urban campaign in another city would not be that what we want. Endzeitgeist, I read your review, and it looks like that RtR is really great. As you know CotCT, also, would you see a chance to play RtR after the Curse? Is it possible? Or would it be too similar?
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Fair disclaimer: I wrote on two of the adventures in the Great City AP. That said I'll try to be objective:
Chunks of the Great City as a campaign setting I believe would be easy to include within Korvosa. Sort of like adding a specific curry spice to the Korvosa stew. You could easily extend Korvosa with the Great City maps, interesting places, institutions and characters from the Great City Campaign setting, the Great City bestiaries could add zest, and especially new urban classes/races/etc. from the Great City Players Guide. The Gutter Mage would rock in Korvosa, I think.
However, significant parts of the Great City AP's plot is tied to specific institutions and even map conventions, as well as to the campaign setting. I think Skullcrackers and Bloody Fix would be challenging (but doable) to adapt -- but at the cost of rich flavor. Punctured the Blackened Vein and Usurpers would be very tough and not likely worth it.
In summary if you want to enhance Korvosa there is a lot of Great City stuff that would rock for your Korvosa Enhanced or Korvosa Redux campaign. However if you are looking for another AP to set in Korvosa, I don't think the RtR is what you want. However, if you want another urban campaign, I think RtR rocks (see earlier disclaimer about conflicts of interest).
Hope that helps. Would love to hear how it works out for you.
@Endzeitgeist -- Hey man! I owe you an email. Hope you are well. Will write soon.
Louis, thanks for your answer! I was hoping that this thread would catch the eye of any of the adventure path's writer's (In fact I would have contacted you way earlier, but as this forum does not have any pm function...).
The points you mentioned are very informative, but not informative enough to decide if I will be able to run the AP as I wish. I cannot decide if the cost of flavor would be too high for me, for example. :) Is there a chance to get a closer looks on the plot, the organizations and/or places? I don't know, perhaps there is an exposé, a detailed preview or such? Please don't get me wrong: I don't want to catch free stuff, draw some inspiration from it and then make my own campaign. If RtR is the right one (and I hope it will be), and my group is open to play another urban campaign*, I will buy more than happily the whole campaign.
But the decision which AP I should run after CotCT is a heavy one - it's the decision what to play for next 2, 3 years. And the more information I got to decide the better. So if you could give me some more basic information on RtR I would really, really appreciate it. If you want to, you can email me to exeter@fastmail.fm
* By the time we reach the second half of Crown of Fangs I will ask them what they want to play next. As today I will offer them Jade Regent, Kingmaker, and Road to Revolution to choose from. And as the last choice depends on how that AP could fit into an post-CotCT Korvosa the blurbs are not really sufficient for me.