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bugleyman wrote:
MeanDM wrote:

I'm a Republican too, and I don't get it either. Wasn't the whole idea of a conservative (not in a religious sense) party supposed to be about keeping our laws the heck out of people's lives? How can one reconcile that with specifically making laws that tell homosexual couples what they can do? I'll never understand...

Signed,

Another Republican for homosexual marriage.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. Now please go take your party back from the crazies...

No. Let both majors die, DIE, DIE!!!!

Sorry, OWS v. The Tea Party would be much more interesting than watching the whores beholden to corporate America any more. And, kids, if we're honest with ourselves, the Dems and the Repubs are both owned lock stock and barrel by special interests, not their constituents...

Oh, and BG, thanks for the e-mails and letter and stuff :-)


houstonderek wrote:

No. Let both majors die, DIE, DIE!!!!

Sorry, OWS v. The Tea Party would be much more interesting than watching the whores beholden to corporate America any more. And, kids, if we're honest with ourselves, the Dems and the Repubs are both owned lock stock and barrel by special interests, not their constituents...

Sad but true.

houstonderek wrote:


Oh, and BG, thanks for the e-mails and letter and stuff :-)

It was my pleasure. I hope you got to take the daughter out last night for some trick-or-treating. :)

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Kryzbyn wrote:

I understand that.

To avoid confusion, I nominate "Marriage" to be the name of such a civil union. Done.

There are several problems with that idea. The first, as bugleyman has pointed out, is that calling it marriage continues to mix religious terms with legal terms. During the Prop. 8 debacle in California there were several Gay Rights groups who opposed gay marriage because of their atheist backgrounds.In fact there is quite a vocal minority in the LBGT community that is opposed to gay marriage for various reasons, led by a group called Against Equality. Here are a few articles from their web site. The second issue is that many people, both gay and straight, have negative ideas about marrage and would not take advantage of the legal partnerships if we call them marriage. While this might seem silly to most of us they are very real concerns to the people who have them and we must be sensitive to those concerns when dealing with issues like this. If we stop someone from exercising their rights because we felt that our position was better than theirs then we are right back where we started from.

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houstonderek wrote:
Stuff

Hey HD, welcome back.


bugleyman wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


Oh, and BG, thanks for the e-mails and letter and stuff :-)
It was my pleasure. I hope you got to take the daughter out last night for some trick-or-treating. :)

Oh, and I too want to thank you bugleyman for supporting HD during his hard times.

Liberty's Edge

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Man, if you want to marry a dude and you're a dude, or a chick if you're a chick, or a 14 year old vacuum cleaner if you're from Mississippi (or whatever), why should anyone else care? Look, misery loves company, and the more people that can get married, the more miserable we can all be! Yay!

I'm anti-marriage, period, by the way. It's an institution, and as someone familiar with being institutionalized*, I can't get jiggy with it...

;-)

*With apologies to Groucho Marx...


Sharoth wrote:
bugleyman wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


Oh, and BG, thanks for the e-mails and letter and stuff :-)
It was my pleasure. I hope you got to take the daughter out last night for some trick-or-treating. :)
Oh, and I too want to thank you bugleyman for supporting HD during his hard times.

You're welcome. I would have liked to do more, but driving to Texas wasn't in the cards.

What say we start a "get Derek to PaizoCon 2012" fund? $50 a head should go pretty far (assuming he can make the trip).


Frankly I'd rather keep track of the snail population than worry about other peoples marriages that I don't give a hoot about.


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SuperSlayer wrote:
Frankly I'd rather keep track of the snail population than worry about other peoples marriages that I don't give a hoot about.

It annoys me that as soon as someone asked the government as an entity didn't just say. "yea, sure, whatever. Go get married. ... Now about this debt/war/social issue(s)...."

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To get things slightly back on track I am glad that the Utah Jazz dumped Chris Humpries before all of this happened. We the season we had last year we do not need any more distractions.


bugleyman wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
bugleyman wrote:
houstonderek wrote:


Oh, and BG, thanks for the e-mails and letter and stuff :-)
It was my pleasure. I hope you got to take the daughter out last night for some trick-or-treating. :)
Oh, and I too want to thank you bugleyman for supporting HD during his hard times.

You're welcome. I would have liked to do more, but driving to Texas wasn't in the cards.

What say we start a "get Derek to PaizoCon 2012" fund? $50 a head should go pretty far (assuming he can make the trip).

I would be up for that come tax time.


Sharoth wrote:
I would be up for that come tax time.

How about it, HD? Is an out-of-state trip next summer a possibility?

Liberty's Edge

I could get travel permission. I would have to forgo a shot drinking contest with Buhlman though, the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

;-)


I'm all for homosexuals being accorded the same rights as everyone else (although I share HD's anti-marriage position--goblins do it in the street and we don't need no marriage certificate!)...

BUT I think that stupid, tacky celebrity marriages that end quickly (Dennis Hopper and Michelle Phillips, anyone?) are a time-honored and quaint 20th-century American custom that I would be sorry to see go the way of the Shakers.


houstonderek wrote:

the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

The injustice! The outrage! The horror!

F!%$ the police!


houstonderek wrote:

I could get travel permission. I would have to forgo a shot drinking contest with Buhlman though, the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

;-)

Have you met Jason? I don't think your chances were that good anyway. :)

Sadly, even though I'm in IT I really don't know the best way to set something like this up. Any interested parties experience doing this sort of thing? Methinks it is time to create a thread...

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

The injustice! The outrage! The horror!

F~#$ the police!

My anthem! I like the RatM version from Philly in '00, but the original is the best!

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bugleyman wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

I could get travel permission. I would have to forgo a shot drinking contest with Buhlman though, the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

;-)

Have you met Jason? I don't think your chances were that good anyway. :)

Sadly, even though I'm in IT I really don't know the best way to set something like this up. Any interested parties experience doing this sort of thing? Methinks it is time to create a thread...

Dude, I have been in the 24/7 party people scene most of my life. I can hang.

;-)


Me and Lorenzo, rollin' in a Benz-o!

Paizo Employee Senior Software Developer

I'm OK with the gay marriage discussion because it's pretty much 100% on topic. But if this thread turns into a Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street vs. whatever I will pull over to the side of the road and give it a time out.


Gary Teter wrote:
I'm OK with the gay marriage discussion because it's pretty much 100% on topic. But if this thread turns into a Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street vs. whatever I will pull over to the side of the road and give it a time out.

I support that.

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Me and Lorenzo, rollin' in a Benz-o!

I used to have that song cranked when I got pulled over for speeding or something. Fun and hilarity ensued.

:-)


houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Me and Lorenzo, rollin' in a Benz-o!

I used to have that song cranked when I got pulled over for speeding or something. Fun and hilarity ensued.

:-)

All the words are english, but I have no idea what they mean when you put them together like that.


Gary Teter wrote:
I'm OK with the gay marriage discussion because it's pretty much 100% on topic. But if this thread turns into a Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street vs. whatever I will pull over to the side of the road and give it a time out.

Can we still quote N.W.A. songs?

@HD--Ah, the idiocies of youth...

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Gary Teter wrote:
I'm OK with the gay marriage discussion because it's pretty much 100% on topic. But if this thread turns into a Democrats vs. Republicans vs. Tea Party vs. Occupy Wall Street vs. whatever I will pull over to the side of the road and give it a time out.

Can we still quote N.W.A. songs?

@HD--Ah, the idiocies of youth...

If we can't, we can switch to Public Enemy


I pulled EPMD out of my boxes of unlistened-to-in-years-albums recently.

EDIT: I love that PE video, btw. Do the right thing!

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
I pulled EPMD out of my boxes of unlistened-to-in-years-albums recently.

First thing I'm doing when I find the power cord for the laptop? Eighties hip-hop/rap night.

What does this have to do with Kardashian? Nothing, really, but it'll be infinitely more entertaining!

;-)


Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Me and Lorenzo, rollin' in a Benz-o!

I used to have that song cranked when I got pulled over for speeding or something. Fun and hilarity ensued.

:-)

All the words are english, but I have no idea what they mean when you put them together like that.

Translation: MC Ren and I, driving a Mercedes.

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Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Tiny Coffee Golem wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
Me and Lorenzo, rollin' in a Benz-o!

I used to have that song cranked when I got pulled over for speeding or something. Fun and hilarity ensued.

:-)

All the words are english, but I have no idea what they mean when you put them together like that.
Translation: MC Ren and I, driving a Mercedes.

Hehehe!


WGaFF.


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houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

The injustice! The outrage! The horror!

F~#$ the police!

My anthem! I like the RatM version from Philly in '00, but the original is the best!

I dunno -- I'm pretty fond of this version myself.


thunderspirit wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:
houstonderek wrote:

the judge put drinking on my list of no-nos this time around.

The injustice! The outrage! The horror!

F~#$ the police!

My anthem! I like the RatM version from Philly in '00, but the original is the best!
I dunno -- I'm pretty fond of this version myself.

That is an awesome video. Here is another version that I always liked.

And here is, bar none, my favorite cover of "Boys in the Hood"


I vote for-

"Marriage" = Marriage between a man+woman.

"Idem-Marriage" = Gay Marriage between a man+man.

"Eadem-Marriage" = Gay Marriage between a woman+woman.

(or, "Gay Marriage" just be both Gay Marriage between man+man or woman+woman.)

This is similar to the words Man and Woman. They have parts in common, but are different.


Grand Magus wrote:

I vote for-

"Marriage" = Marriage between a man+woman.

"Idem-Marriage" = Gay Marriage between a man+man.

"Eadem-Marriage" = Gay Marriage between a woman+woman.

(or, "Gay Marriage" just be both Gay Marriage between man+man or woman+woman.)

This is similar to the words Man and Woman. They have parts in common, but are different.

Because seperate but equal worked so well the first time?


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I'd prefer to just get rid of all perks for being married.

When are single, infantile man-children going to get tax breaks?!?

Shadow Lodge

Oi, I finally started benefiting from the marriage racket. Don't take my perks away now!


I was living in Massachusetts when they first passed gay marriage and I tried to get my roommate to marry me for the insurance (this was before that Adam Sandler movie).

All my gay friends told me that I was belittling and insulting their cause but I was like, screw you! I want insurance, too!

Shadow Lodge

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Pssh, marriage is a legal contract. They need to keep their spiritual beliefs to themselves.

Liberty's Edge

Maybe if they'd just spent a little more on the wedding, they'd be together and happy now...


TOZ wrote:
Pssh, marriage is a legal contract. They need to keep their spiritual beliefs to themselves.

If more people would do the latter this would be a much more sane country/planet.


Doodlebug Anklebiter wrote:

I'd prefer to just get rid of all perks for being married.

When are single, infantile man-children going to get tax breaks?!?

Which Tax breaks?


I'm not married, what do I know?

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Heymitch wrote:
Maybe if they'd just spent a little more on the wedding, they'd be together and happy now...

That was hilarious.


I actually think Kim believes she has out clever-ed us all. And that
she is going to get away with some scheme that apparently only she
knows, and must have made up in her own head.

This woman is now "damaged goods" for the rest of her life.

Shadow Lodge

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Doesn't asking "what went wrong?" assume that, at some point in this situation, things were going even remotely RIGHT?

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Grand Magus wrote:


I actually think Kim believes she has out clever-ed us all. And that
she is going to get away with some scheme that apparently only she
knows, and must have made up in her own head.

This woman is now "damaged goods" for the rest of her life.

Wait, THIS makes her damaged goods, and not the sex tape that came out?

Huh.


houstonderek wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:


I actually think Kim believes she has out clever-ed us all. And that
she is going to get away with some scheme that apparently only she
knows, and must have made up in her own head.

This woman is now "damaged goods" for the rest of her life.

Wait, THIS makes her damaged goods, and not the sex tape that came out?

Huh.

Hm... sex is fun. But once trust is lost you can usually never get it back.

But I see your point from a puritanism perspective.


Grand Magus wrote:


I actually think Kim believes she has out clever-ed us all. And that
she is going to get away with some scheme that apparently only she
knows, and must have made up in her own head.

This woman is now "damaged goods" for the rest of her life.

She's a celebrity. The only way she will ever be "damaged goods" by hollywood standards is when her looks fade or people stop talking about her.

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Grand Magus wrote:
houstonderek wrote:
Grand Magus wrote:


I actually think Kim believes she has out clever-ed us all. And that
she is going to get away with some scheme that apparently only she
knows, and must have made up in her own head.

This woman is now "damaged goods" for the rest of her life.

Wait, THIS makes her damaged goods, and not the sex tape that came out?

Huh.

Hm... sex is fun. But once trust is lost you can usually never get it back.

But I see your point from a puritanism perspective.

I'm far from a puritan, so forget that, but just from a skanky ho perspective, the sex tape is far more indicative (I'm pretty sure she meant it to be out in the world just from the way the dude is carrying on) of how much of a screwed up attention whore she is than a sham wedding.


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She was just playing with her Stupid Spoiled Whore playset.

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