VTT Beta Round 2


4th Edition

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Hey gang -

Round 2 of the Virtual Table beta test is out. I am not familiar with other applications, but I'd like to say that this looks GREAT! I am just now getting to applications and building my adventure, but the table looks beautiful, is rather intuitive to use, has built-in sound chat that sounds REAL CLEAN, and I can't wait to start playing games on this. I know most of you are in the "I'll believe it when I see it" and I am sure a lot of you are already entrenched in systems you already use and love, and all of this is absolutely perfectly okay, but I do think that you're going to like the VTT.


Darn tootin'.

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Scott Betts wrote:
Darn tootin'.

Hey Scott - I'm the same ID over there as here - feel free to look me up.


TigerDave wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
Darn tootin'.
Hey Scott - I'm the same ID over there as here - feel free to look me up.

I will, once they deliver my new links/passes. ;p Apparently I'm one of the accounts they have to enter manually, or something.

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Scott Betts wrote:
TigerDave wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
Darn tootin'.
Hey Scott - I'm the same ID over there as here - feel free to look me up.
I will, once they deliver my new links/passes. ;p Apparently I'm one of the accounts they have to enter manually, or something.

I had the same problem last night, but WotC_Josh took care of me right away. I recommend you PM him.


He posted on the forums, actually, saying all the bugged invites should have been sent out by now - so if you still haven't gotten anything, it is probably definitely worth trying a PM or something similar.


TigerDave wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
TigerDave wrote:
Scott Betts wrote:
Darn tootin'.
Hey Scott - I'm the same ID over there as here - feel free to look me up.
I will, once they deliver my new links/passes. ;p Apparently I'm one of the accounts they have to enter manually, or something.
I had the same problem last night, but WotC_Josh took care of me right away. I recommend you PM him.

Cool, thanks for the heads up. I've been busy with a lot of work today so I haven't had much time to follow what's going on with the beta.

EDIT: PM'd him, now just have to wait for a response.

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Okay!

Ran my first go as DM tonight!

Got. Decimated.

One of the things I learned (yeah - its not DM vs Players - got that) is that you need to expect players who really know their stuff to show up at your table - LOL. I ran two encounters, one standard, one 'hard' and it was a complete joke. The group blazed through them like a hot knife through nothing but air! The most damage I got out was a poison save vs. end that the player couldn't save for the life of them.

Had a BLAST.

I can't say that this is any better than any other product out there, but I can say that it was pretty easy to build a map with pre-drawn drag-n-drop tiles, and importing characters and monsters from their persective builders.

If you're a 4E fan, and if you are an insider subscriber, I think you are going to have fun with this tool. If neither is your cup of tea, then have fun whatever you're gaming - I wish you nothing but the best!

Tah Dah!


I'm part of the Beta and haven't had a chance to try it out. Any paizo forum goers wanna get a session going?


I'd be interested.

Michael Pfaff wrote:
I'm part of the Beta and haven't had a chance to try it out. Any paizo forum goers wanna get a session going?


Returned from San Francisco to discover that my account has beta access again! Man, character import is sweet. Pre-programmed power card roll buttons are great, though I wish they'd prepend the name of the power to the roll as well. But, on the whole, this is exactly what I was looking for in terms of cross-app integration. Very cool stuff. Can't wait to show this off to my real life gaming group on Sunday.

Unfortunately, I can't make any of the Glass-Spire Forest events this weekend (work on Friday, San Diego on Saturday, real life game on Sunday), but I'd love to have a totally unofficial Paizo forums group table at some point in the near future. I'd be happy to set up and run a quick table of the first couple encounters of Burnt Offerings (I'm operating under the assumption that most of us are already familiar with how the Rise of the Runelords AP kicks off) at some point. Interest? It would just be a one-shot thing to give everyone the chance to play around with the table and do some internet socializing.


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Does anyone have a link that I could follow to read more about VTT? Sounds interesting, but I'm curious about details.


Scott Betts wrote:
I'd be happy to set up and run a quick table of the first couple encounters of Burnt Offerings (I'm operating under the assumption that most of us are already familiar with how the Rise of the Runelords AP kicks off) at some point. Interest? It would just be a one-shot thing to give everyone the chance to play around with the table and do some internet socializing.
P.H. Dungeon wrote:

I'd be interested.

Michael Pfaff wrote:
I'm part of the Beta and haven't had a chance to try it out. Any paizo forum goers wanna get a session going?

Scott, P.H.,

When would you guys be available? I've got a pretty busy schedule, but looks like I would be open for the following dates:

April 9 Saturday around 8:30pm EST till Midnight
April 13 Wednesday around 6:00pm EST till 11pm
April 20 Wednesday around 6:00pm EST till 11pm
April 27 Wednesday around 6:00pm EST till 11pm

(I guess Wednesdays are best for me... heh.)

What about you guys?

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Michael Pfaff wrote:
I'm part of the Beta and haven't had a chance to try it out. Any paizo forum goers wanna get a session going?

You guys can catch me over there as Tiger_Dave as well. I'd be happy to run anything for you - right now I'm working on a conversion for Legacy of Fire. During the days I hang out in the Beta group - and it has an integrated chat room. Hunt me up in there or PM me.

One of the things I found interesting is that the table system is designed for you to flag your game 1st Ed and on up. I thought that was interesting - the system doesn't hard-support prior editions of the game but really it takes just a little tweeking to input and play your non-4E campaign AND ADVERTISE IT AS SUCH.

Pretty cool, that.


TigerDave wrote:
right now I'm working on a conversion for Legacy of Fire

That seems to be the hot thing to do these days. ;p


A Wednesday evening would work pretty good for me. I don't have access to the beta test though. I do have access to D&D insider.


P.H. Dungeon wrote:
A Wednesday evening would work pretty good for me. I don't have access to the beta test though. I do have access to D&D insider.

I typically work out on Wednesday evenings, but I could try and shuffle things around if people get a group together.

As far as the beta/Insider, I believe the plan is that more Insider members will be invited to the beta every few days. It shouldn't be long before you're in, assuming you've opted into communication from WotC.

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Scott Betts wrote:
TigerDave wrote:
right now I'm working on a conversion for Legacy of Fire
That seems to be the hot thing to do these days. ;p

Well. I certainly wouldn't want to be accused of following a trend. Poo. I just thought a nice desert romp would be fun. I wanted our home gamers to get a group going and just do one long campaign up to mid-paragon level - thought it would be nice.

This past Tuesday they added 1000 people signed up for the beta test and then another 3000 generic DDI members. This weekend looks to be a big stress test with an official event we're running (I have three tables set up) so I wouldn't expect to see another invite round until next week if you did not get one.


P.H. Dungeon wrote:
A Wednesday evening would work pretty good for me. I don't have access to the beta test though. I do have access to D&D insider.

I wonder if I could just lend you one of my codes? I got into the Beta when I wasn't even subscribed and it seemed to work fine. Not sure how the actual integration of the CB and ATs might have changed that.


Actually, I just got an e-mail inviting me into the Beta Test, so I'm going to try to get set up and check it out this evening.

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Michael Pfaff wrote:
P.H. Dungeon wrote:
A Wednesday evening would work pretty good for me. I don't have access to the beta test though. I do have access to D&D insider.
I wonder if I could just lend you one of my codes? I got into the Beta when I wasn't even subscribed and it seemed to work fine. Not sure how the actual integration of the CB and ATs might have changed that.

No. The codes are "tickets" that allow you access to a table. If you can't get past the doormen to even get to a table in the first place, the codes aren't going to do a diddle.


TigerDave wrote:
Michael Pfaff wrote:
P.H. Dungeon wrote:
A Wednesday evening would work pretty good for me. I don't have access to the beta test though. I do have access to D&D insider.
I wonder if I could just lend you one of my codes? I got into the Beta when I wasn't even subscribed and it seemed to work fine. Not sure how the actual integration of the CB and ATs might have changed that.
No. The codes are "tickets" that allow you access to a table. If you can't get past the doormen to even get to a table in the first place, the codes aren't going to do a diddle.

Ah. Gotcha.

Well, let's try and get a definitive date going for an upcoming Wednesday. Who wants to DM?

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Michael Pfaff wrote:
Well, let's try and get a definitive date going for an upcoming Wednesday. Who wants to DM?

I'll be happy to DM. For this one I will keep it restricted to invites only until I have all of you there, so either respond here with your DDI name, or PM Tiger_Dave over there so I know who to invite! I'll also like a ping on what your bestest times are. I won't be able to start prior to 8pm Eastern, 5PM Pacific.


My DDI name is: PH_dungeon

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P.H. Dungeon wrote:
My DDI name is: PH_dungeon

PH - I have you invited. For the rest of you, still looking for a PM or a response back here so I can invite you.

The plan is to run Wednesday evening at 5pm Arizona time.
- 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, 5PM Pacific.

The event will run about 3 hours (don't want to keep the East Coast up too late).

Please bring a level 2 character, built to DMG 1, Page 143 standards:
- One level 1, 2 and 3 Magic Item
- 360gp (level 1 magic item's worth in gold)
Also set for the Eberron campaign:
- ALL races and classes
- Eberron deities, backgrounds, dragonmarks
- No Forgotten Realms-based or Dark Sun-specific backgrounds,
deities, themes, or equipment (in other words, no alternate realm
[u]flavor[/u] items)

The table will open at about 4:45pm. I will run it promptly at 5:00pm, regardless of who shows up. If you show up late, simply import your character and jump right in. I'd rather you had a chance to experience the table rather than get all froofy about 'game logic' for this first go-round.

Please let me know in advance if you will NOT be using the integrated voice chat during the game (IE don't have a mic, playing in baby's room and don't want to wake them, etc,.)


WotC community name is: P1NBACK. Send me an invite. ;)


I checked my account and was able to accept the invite. I have a level 2 shifter barbarian ready to roll.


P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I checked my account and was able to accept the invite. I have a level 2 shifter barbarian ready to roll.

I rolled up a Warforged Knight.

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Michael Pfaff wrote:
WotC community name is: P1NBACK. Send me an invite. ;)

Invited!

Now just seeing if Scott is willing to forgo a Weds of gym or not.


TigerDave wrote:
Michael Pfaff wrote:
WotC community name is: P1NBACK. Send me an invite. ;)

Invited!

Now just seeing if Scott is willing to forgo a Weds of gym or not.

Thanks! Looking forward to it!


I plan to try out the VT tonight and figure out what my username is - if there is still room tomorrow, I'd be interested in joining in. :)


Just found out that my car will be in the shop tomorrow, so I wouldn't be going to the gym anyhow. If you've still got room, I'll be there. Account name is uciroleplayinggames.

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Matthew Koelbl wrote:
I plan to try out the VT tonight and figure out what my username is - if there is still room tomorrow, I'd be interested in joining in. :)

Either post here or PM Tiger_Dave over there and I'll invite you!

Scott Betts wrote:
Just found out that my car will be in the shop tomorrow, so I wouldn't be going to the gym anyhow. If you've still got room, I'll be there. Account name is uciroleplayinggames.

Invitation sent. You should see a marker on your Current Campaigns page!

As an FYI, we currently have one striker and one defender. Could use a leader.


TigerDave wrote:
As an FYI, we currently have one striker and one defender. Could use a leader.

Sounds good. I'll roll a cleric.


Looks like MrMyth is my WotC username, so feel free to invite away!

I'm thinking of a Warforged Hunter to provide a good controller, so I'll see if I can get that in the system. :)


I'm hyped. Going out to buy a microphone right now.

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Matthew Koelbl wrote:

Looks like MrMyth is my WotC username, so feel free to invite away!

I'm thinking of a Warforged Hunter to provide a good controller, so I'll see if I can get that in the system. :)

I haven't forgotten about you Matthew - unfortunately my work machine does NOT like Silverlight and won't open the scheduling page. I'll get you invited as soon as I get home, and you will be able to play right away.

Best,
David


This is very last minute, but it appears that my old passes are invalid/have already been used. Does anyone have a spare access pass I can use?

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Scott Betts wrote:
This is very last minute, but it appears that my old passes are invalid/have already been used. Does anyone have a spare access pass I can use?

Matthew - Invited

Scott - T13e-V0uy-WCoq-E44W


Sorry my connection dropped for a second time when I was trying to adjust my hit points, which didn't seem to be working. I'm not sure why. I think that my computer or browser wasn't liking the online application. It messed up my internet temporarily, and I had to restart my computer. The technically difficulties were grating on me a little too much, so I didn't bother logging back on. It was interesting to see the VT in action, though, as brief as it was. I hope the rest of the session worked out.


Thanks again for running the session for us, Tiger_Dave. Tons of fun, and great to finally meet some of you people. I'm looking forward to more VT-based games in the future. :D

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P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I hope the rest of the session worked out.

We are so sorry you missed out. We fought the spiders, and then took on some undead with a Wraith (NASTY). I think it went well and everyone had fun, I was a little sloppy with my rules and I'll try to tighten that up significantly. I really appreciate having the opportunity of having some Paizo friends at my table! Good times!


TigerDave wrote:
P.H. Dungeon wrote:
I hope the rest of the session worked out.
We are so sorry you missed out. We fought the spiders, and then took on some undead with a Wraith (NASTY). I think it went well and everyone had fun, I was a little sloppy with my rules and I'll try to tighten that up significantly. I really appreciate having the opportunity of having some Paizo friends at my table! Good times!

I had a blast and thought you DM'd very well. Was good meeting everyone.

Enjoyed the VT and look forward to more games using it. Thanks for your time Dave, and hope to play with you again, maybe as DM myself!

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Sorry if this stuff has been asked before but I'm curious.

My gaming group is having trouble getting together so my wife and I are looking into the possibility of online TT it. However, when this thing DOES come out, do we both have to have a DDI sub to run this/connect with others or only one of us? Or is it only one person out of the whole group that has to be one?

Also, a little off topic but with the DDI, do you get all back copies of Dungeon and Dragon or only the recent ones?


Misery wrote:

Sorry if this stuff has been asked before but I'm curious.

My gaming group is having trouble getting together so my wife and I are looking into the possibility of online TT it. However, when this thing DOES come out, do we both have to have a DDI sub to run this/connect with others or only one of us? Or is it only one person out of the whole group that has to be one?

Also, a little off topic but with the DDI, do you get all back copies of Dungeon and Dragon or only the recent ones?

We don't yet know exactly how the VTT is going to interact with D&D Insider subscriptions. The beta uses a "ticket" system where the DM can start a game, and each player who wants to join the game must enter a unique ticket code which gives them access to the game for 24 hours.

The most plausible-looking scenario at this point is going to be that starting a game (as a DM) using the VTT is going to be either free or included with a DDI subscription (I'm guessing the latter), and joining a VTT game as a player will require purchasing tickets (probably for a very low cost per ticket). It's also possible that DDI subscribers will not have to purchase tickets to join a game, and that the ticket system is just a way to allow non-subscribers to play VTT games. At this point, all of this is speculation.

Regarding back issues of Dragon and Dungeon magazines, subscribing to DDI gives you instant access to every issue of the digital magazines published so far.

Liberty's Edge

Scott Betts wrote:
Misery wrote:

Sorry if this stuff has been asked before but I'm curious.

My gaming group is having trouble getting together so my wife and I are looking into the possibility of online TT it. However, when this thing DOES come out, do we both have to have a DDI sub to run this/connect with others or only one of us? Or is it only one person out of the whole group that has to be one?

Also, a little off topic but with the DDI, do you get all back copies of Dungeon and Dragon or only the recent ones?

We don't yet know exactly how the VTT is going to interact with D&D Insider subscriptions. The beta uses a "ticket" system where the DM can start a game, and each player who wants to join the game must enter a unique ticket code which gives them access to the game for 24 hours.

The most plausible-looking scenario at this point is going to be that starting a game (as a DM) using the VTT is going to be either free or included with a DDI subscription (I'm guessing the latter), and joining a VTT game as a player will require purchasing tickets (probably for a very low cost per ticket). It's also possible that DDI subscribers will not have to purchase tickets to join a game, and that the ticket system is just a way to allow non-subscribers to play VTT games. At this point, all of this is speculation.

Regarding back issues of Dragon and Dungeon magazines, subscribing to DDI gives you instant access to every issue of the digital magazines published so far.

Thanks for the info Scott.

Until the thing goes live we'll just search around for a 4e pbp and join up with a group. I rather enjoy the heavier roleplay aspect of PBPs actually but have yet to see how combat works with them as far as 4e goes.


Misery wrote:
Until the thing goes live we'll just search around for a 4e pbp and join up with a group. I rather enjoy the heavier roleplay aspect of PBPs actually but have yet to see how combat works with them as far as 4e goes.

Also, note that the are other existing VTTs out there, such as Maptools, Fantasy Grounds, OpenRPG, etc.

Now, the advantage of the WotC VTT looks likely to be ease of use, while these other programs tend to have more of a learning curve. But they are an option for dabbling in online play without needing to invest in a DDI subscription.

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