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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
How could you not like 5?!?

The story is s~$!. The translation was garbage. It required a heavy amount of grinding. There were many parts where the game didn't really hint at where you were supposed to go. It felt forced. The characters had no real depth beyond "hey this pirate actually is a woman, go figure huh?"

It felt like someone who never played a FF game was given a summary of rules (make sure thee's something about crystals, throw in chocobos somewhere, and have a guy named Cid somewhere) - and that someone threw it together last minute, like a kid who ignored his science project deadline for two months.

Considering it followed up 4, which (for the time) had a great story, if a bit hackneyed, was really disappointing.

Still - if they want to remaster, sequel or otherwise pump up any game, it should be 6. Because Kefka.

may a toothy viper mistake your manhood for a rival for insulting ff5 thusly!

Still love 4. I dont know if I have the patience to get the dark knight in tactics.

In the meantime, please enjoy my dark knight. It monologues, but not very well.


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Just three more hours of work to go...

If anyone for some reason needs to escape the weekend merriment -- or family drama, more likely -- please consider further commenting on the Adventurers' Journey.


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We picked out Kaiju Crush for the General for Christmas.

Tiny T-Rex's eyes got super big and he exclaimed "I want to do this in real life!"

*sniff sniff* that's my little dude!!


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I saw The Last Jedi this morning. That wasn't just bad, it was aggressively bad.

Grand Lodge

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I doubt I'd know a good movie if I saw one.


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I can recommend some truly terrible ones to help you build up an idea of what a good movie isn't.

Grand Lodge

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I wouldn't watch them.


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I typed up the whole conversation but then discarded it, but it was basically, "Hey, Impus Major, want to go to Fuddrucker's and see Jumanji tonight?"
"Why aren't you seeing The Last Jedi?"
"I don't know."

So for whatever reason, Shiro really wants to see Jumanji. Since it involves dinner and socialization, I'm going along, even if I don't feel like seeing the movie. Impus Major is feeling similar pressure among his peers; he is one of a handful of kids at school who haven't seen The Last Jedi yet. And he doesn't particularly want to see it, except to get the other kids to leave him alone.

Peer pressure: A lifelong pursuit.


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That's funny, a friend just got done telling me that "there were some storytelling things I didn't love," but that "Princess Leia is especially badass in this one" and that "it counts as Star Wars." (Unlike the prequels, implicitly.)

Anyhow, my wife and I are going to have a Jewish Xmas: A chinese dinner and Star Wars!


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:

That's funny, a friend just got done telling me that "there were some storytelling things I didn't love," but that "Princess Leia is especially badass in this one" and that "it counts as Star Wars." (Unlike the prequels, implicitly.)

Anyhow, my wife and I are going to have a Jewish Xmas: A chinese dinner and Star Wars!

Which is weird, because I felt Leia was distinctly the opposite of badass here.


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I liked lucas arts games but disney got rid of them. I really liked mercenaries playground of destruction.


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NobodysHome wrote:

I typed up the whole conversation but then discarded it, but it was basically, "Hey, Impus Major, want to go to Fuddrucker's and see Jumanji tonight?"

"Why aren't you seeing The Last Jedi?"
"I don't know."

So for whatever reason, Shiro really wants to see Jumanji. Since it involves dinner and socialization, I'm going along, even if I don't feel like seeing the movie. Impus Major is feeling similar pressure among his peers; he is one of a handful of kids at school who haven't seen The Last Jedi yet. And he doesn't particularly want to see it, except to get the other kids to leave him alone.

Peer pressure: A lifelong pursuit.

Peer pressure is the one way to get me not to do something.

Luckily, Crookshanks is the same.


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If a movie is bad - really, really terribly bad, as opposed to just mediocre - it goes straight on Limey's Must Watch List.

NB: Must Watch Lust is something else entirely, which I doubt anyone wants to know about.

On another note, I've just got back from watching Pops Longears live in concert, doing very old-time Xmas music (1800s) and local folk songs. It was very good.


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I liked FF5 in a roundabout way. I really only thought one character got any sort of development or growth, that being Faris (though Galuf does get an awesome scene mid-game, it's very quickly undermined by plot), who is my favorite character in the game by far. And Gilgamesh is always worth a laugh.

Still, it's in the middle of my rankings. Above 7 and 10, but not as liked as 6, 9, or 4. I put it right on par with 12, which was the last FF game I actually cared to play.


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I saw Bright with friends today. Enjoyable buddy-cop fantasy action movie. A shame it's not a 10-15 episode series, though. It would allow to show more of the characters, the world, and the plot.


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I am a man who walks alone...


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DANGIT. First Nuzlocke death.


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Sympathies.


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Syrus Terrigan wrote:

531 posts, this time around. :D

Hate that I'm missing so much of the goings-on; loving the fact that I'm earning money.

PMs will probably be the only reasonable way to contact me consistently, if such is called for. Trying to keep up with an average of about 175 posts per board reload is not something I can execute now (so, yeah -- I skipped most of those 531).

TLJ got another bad review -- this time from a trusted friend who hates the prequels more than I do. His exact words:
** spoiler omitted **

Nearly fully recovered from sinus infection -- Huzzah!

My sister got the job she wanted -- Double Huzzah!!

My PbP campaign is going to launch in just about 2 weeks!! Awesome!!

No more 5th Edition games for me!! Woo-hoo!!!

All in all -- things are good, if busy.

I hope all is well with y'all, FaWtLies!!

I am blown away by how incorrect your friend is. I can't even guess how that happened. Impressive! Every single word he said was wrong!

(Cwateyedidthar?)


Otherwise, congratulations!


Happy belated birthday, Frehold!


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And I just noticed sometime a week or so ago someone gifted me the five issues of Reign of Winter I didn't already have (minus Rasputin). So massive thanks to whoever that was!


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We got Crookshanks some game with Horizon in the title wherein you play a woman that hunts giant robots.

Tiny T-Rex is getting Ratchet and Clank.


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Horizon Zero Dawn?

That's an interesting one. I bet Crookshanks will enjoy it.

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captain yesterday wrote:
Orthos wrote:

From what I've seen of let's-plays of it, it's a little easier than most RPGs, in the sense that you don't have to manage your whole party - you control just the main character and you can give commands to your allies but they're otherwise AI-run.

Kids are pretty good at learning the systems so I wouldn't worry too much that it's a bit on the complex side.

The downside is that the kid might be annoyed or upset that there are extremely few female characters in the cast, and only one of them is recruitable to your party and even then only temporarily. Most of the time your party is going to be the same four guys.

Probably not for Crookshanks then, she appreciates a cool ass kicking woman.

I appreciate a cool @ss kicking woman too.

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Freehold DM wrote:


may i suggest assassins creed origins?

Cuz aya.

My god.

Aya.

Yeah my BF tells me on how cool assassins creed games are, but I know I can't play them properly since all that pakour over the roof tops would just get me dizzy. I think Assassins creed games appeal to you if you value personal freedoms, freedom of expression etc.

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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:
How could you not like 5?!?

The story is s@+@. The translation was garbage. It required a heavy amount of grinding. There were many parts where the game didn't really hint at where you were supposed to go. It felt forced. The characters had no real depth beyond "hey this pirate actually is a woman, go figure huh?"

It felt like someone who never played a FF game was given a summary of rules (make sure thee's something about crystals, throw in chocobos somewhere, and have a guy named Cid somewhere) - and that someone threw it together last minute, like a kid who ignored his science project deadline for two months.

Considering it followed up 4, which (for the time) had a great story, if a bit hackneyed, was really disappointing.

Still - if they want to remaster, sequel or otherwise pump up any game, it should be 6. Because Kefka.

JRPGS usually have a large element of grinding in them. And are generally linear. If you don't like grinding then don't go for that genre.


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Tacticslion wrote:
Happy belated birthday, Frehold!

thank you!


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Chrono Trigger didn't need ANY grinding, and it was the greatest JRPG of all time.


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Just a Mort wrote:
Freehold DM wrote:


may i suggest assassins creed origins?

Cuz aya.

My god.

Aya.

Yeah my BF tells me on how cool assassins creed games are, but I know I can't play them properly since all that pakour over the roof tops would just get me dizzy. I think Assassins creed games appeal to you if you value personal freedoms, freedom of expression etc.

as i am chaotic good, yes.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Chrono Trigger didn't need ANY grinding, and it was the greatest JRPG of all time.

you mispelled super robot wars/disgaea/legend of the world eaters.

But those are strategy/tactical anyway...

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Never played Chrono Trigger - but undertale for "full completion" you need to find all the monsters and do nice things/or nasty things, so there's a lot of grinding involved too. Pokemon - Yes you gotta do quite a lot of things to catch em all...

Dark Souls + Blood Borne you also have to farm souls/blood echoes. Whether you feel those are RPGs or not - is a different story - though they are classified as RPGs.

Lawful Neutral here. I know one of the players in my Strange Aeons games is NG.


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I have to side with Vagrant on this one.


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Just a Mort wrote:

Never played Chrono Trigger - but undertale for "full completion" you need to find all the monsters and do nice things/or nasty things, so there's a lot of grinding involved too. Pokemon - Yes you gotta do quite a lot of things to catch em all...

Dark Souls + Blood Borne you also have to farm souls/blood echoes. Whether you feel those are RPGs or not - is a different story - though they are classified as RPGs.

Lawful Neutral here. I know one of the players in my Strange Aeons games is NG.

you may like assassins creed rogue.


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Chrono Trigger was a game made in the mid-90s (IIRC) by a "dream team" from the creators of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and character designs by none other than Akira Toriyama of Dragon Ball (and Z and Super, but not GT, 'cause f!+! GT) fame.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:
Chrono Trigger was a game made in the mid-90s (IIRC) by a "dream team" from the creators of Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and character designs by none other than Akira Toryiama of Dragon Ball (and Z and Super, but not GT, 'cause f~$& GT) fame.

indeed

Will always love chrono trigger. But it is not the best in my view.


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It had 13 endings before anyone else had even 2, was the first game to have New Game + options, an AMAZING story (with a shit-tarded monkey-crap sequel that was visually beautiful and had the best soundtrack on any RPG to date), a phenomenal score, great characters...CT was the shiz-nyte.

Just...don't play Chrono Cross. That is an exercise in futility and sadness. It's pretty, as I said, and Yasunori delivers an even better score than the prequel, but the story is retarded, unnecessarily complex, and only peripherally connected to the original.


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As an aside, where is the love for 7th saga/mystic ark?


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I looked up why the story for CC sucked so much and was so needlessly complex and weird - it's because CT was written by a group, with different writers focusing on different eras.

The guy who did Zeal wrote all of CC. And Zeal was needlessly weird and complex.

Because of COURSE he did.

F@@+ing Zeal.


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

It had 13 endings before anyone else had even 2, was the first game to have New Game + options, an AMAZING story (with a s**$-tarded monkey-crap sequel that was visually beautiful and had the best soundtrack on any RPG to date), a phenomenal score, great characters...CT was the shiz-nyte.

Just...don't play Chrono Cross. That is an exercise in futility and sadness. It's pretty, as I said, and Yasunori delivers an even better score than the prequel, but the story is retarded, unnecessarily complex, and only peripherally connected to the original.

7th saga had...7 endings, I think. But they really kinda same-y.


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I never beat 7th Saga. It was neat how each character choice was quite varied, but it was too grind-heavy for me to hold interest.

I did enjoy SaGa Frontier, so I can understand your love of Romancing Saga, but...they're all so...disconnected. I couldn't stand how SGF never gave you any real direction on where to go, or what to do to beat the game. SGF2 was just f$%%ing weird.

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Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

That's funny, a friend just got done telling me that "there were some storytelling things I didn't love," but that "Princess Leia is especially badass in this one" and that "it counts as Star Wars." (Unlike the prequels, implicitly.)

Anyhow, my wife and I are going to have a Jewish Xmas: A chinese dinner and Star Wars!

Which is weird, because I felt Leia was distinctly the opposite of badass here.

Hey how many people get to get blasted out of a spaceship and rescue themselves after that?


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The Vagrant Erudite wrote:

I looked up why the story for CC sucked so much and was so needlessly complex and weird - it's because CT was written by a group, with different writers focusing on different eras.

The guy who did Zeal wrote all of CC. And Zeal was needlessly weird and complex.

Because of COURSE he did.

F!$~ing Zeal.

CT was set up under the idea of a mutable timeline, and CC under mutable multiple timelines. An example of why you should pick one or the other and stick with it for the entire series.


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Just a Mort wrote:
Rosita the Riveter wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:

That's funny, a friend just got done telling me that "there were some storytelling things I didn't love," but that "Princess Leia is especially badass in this one" and that "it counts as Star Wars." (Unlike the prequels, implicitly.)

Anyhow, my wife and I are going to have a Jewish Xmas: A chinese dinner and Star Wars!

Which is weird, because I felt Leia was distinctly the opposite of badass here.
Hey how many people get to get blasted out of a spaceship and rescue themselves after that?

In sci-fi? Quite a few. In some of the subgenres, it's almost a basic qualification for being a hero.

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Peer pressure: After the Goblet of Fire Harry Potter movie, my friends and I boycotted it and all other Harry Potter movies for not staying true to the books. (The fourth book had so much content that it should have been done in two movies, not one)

I think when you do a book to movie adaptation, you always piss off some, if not all the book fans.


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Another thing One Punch Man does to prove his badass. Survives the near-vacuum of the moon just by pinching his nose. And then of course he just jumps back to Earth like it's nothing.

Goddamnit I love that show.

SEASON 2 NEEDS TO GET HERE FASTER!!


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...and yes, I'm reading the manga as each issue comes out online. King's backstory was hilarious. Blizzard is teh sexy.

Can't wait to meet Blast.


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Just a Mort wrote:

Peer pressure: After the Goblet of Fire Harry Potter movie, my friends and I boycotted it for not staying true to the books. (The fourth book had so much content that it should have been done in two movies, not one)

I think when you do a book to movie adaptation, you always piss off some, if not all the book fans.

At least it didn't go completely off the rails like Jurassic Park 2...


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I dunno, LotR did a pretty good job of holding true. They only cut out the unneccessary shit, like Tom Bombadil. F~~* that guy.

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I personally found the LOTR books too lengthy anyway. Stop singing and get to fighting! RAWR!

But the problem is that I came from the movies to read the books, so I wouldn't have been considered as a book fan. If not for the LOTR movie I would not have even read the books.

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