AD&D a threat to prison security


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This drew me in like a gnome into the FirstWorld. Even though this case was brought forth last year, it has finally reached resolution. Well there goes my masterplan of going to jail to get my RPG fix or recruiting players from prisoner population. It sounds like a KODT strip. I wonder if this applies to all RPGs?
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This topic already got a free-for-all going on the boards a while ago.

For the record (pardon the pun) I am against banning D&D.


True, but the decision has finally been rendered.


Wierd decision.

Amazing the expert evidence was accepted so whole heartedly.

"He further testified that fantasy
role-playing games like D&D have “been found to
promote competitive hostility, violence, and addictive
escape behavior, which can compromise not only the
inmate’s rehabilitation and effects of positive programming,
but endanger the public and jeopardize the safety
and security of the institution.”

--yet the expert didnt produce any evidence of it happening and the affidavits saying that it had not happened in the past (which seem to be accepted)were not evidence on point ie not evidence leading to undermine the inference that it might happen in the future ( I always thought past conduct was the best predictor of future conduct).

"He explained that the policy (of banning the game)
was intended to promote prison security because co
operative games can mimic the organization of gangs
and lead to the actual development thereof. Muraski
elaborated that during D&D games, one player is denoted
the “Dungeon Master.” The Dungeon Master is tasked with
giving directions to other players, which Muraski
testified mimics the organization of a gang. At bottom, his
testimony about this policy aim highlighted Waupun’s
worries about cooperative activity among inmates, particularly
that carried out in an organized, hierarchical fashion."

---DM is tasked with giving directions to the other players which mimics a gang?? huh?

how is his evidence of what happens in a game accepted as accurate?

So D&D structure mimics as a gang?- That is his evidence?

Was the prisoner unrepresented?

There was some stuff about it being undesirable to allow escapism- which I dont agree with but I accept D&D does do that.

It seemed the threshold that the prison had to establish was that the activity "can" lead to undesirable behaviour- cases of D&D players committing offences or suicide were cited to support this. If this is the only threshold I guess they can ban anything.

How does the dicta and or precedent impact upon gaming in schools etc

Liberty's Edge

A DM establishes and enforces rules, it's true. And it's possible to have D&D players looking to Dungeon Masters, rather than to the prison’s own carefully constructed hierarchy of authority, for guidance and dispute resolution.

They're kinda like judges in that regard.

Ohhhhh snap!


“been found to promote competitive hostility, violence, and addictive escape behavior"

Heheheheh - as if!

It'll be a one shot escape attempt for me! Once I finish Crafting my Wand of Teleportation from those toilet rolls and old batterys I'll be freedom from this cage I tell ye! And anyone gets in my way - its the Finger of Death for em!

Scarab Sages

runs panting into the thread after having narrowly escaped a rival gang of vicious D&D players


Aberzombie wrote:
runs panting into the thread after having narrowly escaped a rival gang of vicious D&D players

Whars ya getin’to Zumbie! This is Tw33ty S1d3rs turf too.

Showz ya tatz or ya gets Smited.

D&D Gang tat.

Spoiler:
Not my tat.

Scarab Sages

tags the wall with "FAWTL RULZ"


Shifty wrote:
This topic already got a free-for-all going on the boards a while ago.

here it is

Stefan


Very little that is stupid or petty or just plain sadistic that our prison system does surprises me.

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