RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32, 2010 Top 8
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Victor deserved and ERPPC to the head.Nah, Vic wasn't quite so bad.
Question, though:
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The Wolverine/WoB connection hints that comstar gave the fleeing Wolverines/Minnesota tribe shelter, and they became a secret sect in Comstar. Like most things in The Blake Documents, they're not confirmed or denied.
Kind of on topic. Part of the problem with the Realms before the spellplauge/nuke was they were answering all the questions, closing all the doors, etc. I hope that Golarion has a nice set of unanswered conspiracy theories to keep us all bickering for a long time.
Edit: Victor served as an important lesson in the later half of FASA's career. He became the man who wanted to not fight again, not wanting to accept that the universe isn't one for idealists.
How the am I trolling? You said something, I disagreed with it...welcome to discussion boards.
And Stackpole stopping writing was the best thing that ever happens to BT, he often contradicted something else, wrote stuff and changed backgrounds and had folks acting unlike anything they should have acted like. He wrote black and white good guys vs bad guys stuff in a setting all about grey
He was a bad writer for BT and his character are the very definition of mary sue.
He was a crappy writer with crappy super hero characters.
How the am I trolling?
And Stackpole stopping writing was the best thing that ever happens to BT, he often contradicted something else, wrote stuff and changed backgrounds and had folks acting unlike anything they should have acted like. He wrote black and white good guys vs bad guys stuff in a setting all about grey
He was a bad writer for BT and his character are the very definition of mary sue.
He was a crappy writer with crappy super hero characters.
He was the guy who brought the universe to life, away from it just being little merc units fighting for survival. He was the go-to guy for moving the big story forward and did it with style and panache.
But, whatever. If you hate him and his characters so much, have fun doing so. I prefer remembering the good times when it was fun to read BattleTech novels and, yeah, you could read in his novels about big goddamn heroes.
How the am I trolling?
And Stackpole stopping writing was the best thing that ever happens to BT, he often contradicted something else, wrote stuff and changed backgrounds and had folks acting unlike anything they should have acted like. He wrote black and white good guys vs bad guys stuff in a setting all about grey
He was a bad writer for BT and his character are the very definition of mary sue.
He was a crappy writer with crappy super hero characters.
He was the guy who brought the universe to life, away from it just being little merc units fighting for survival. He was the go-to guy for moving the big story forward and did it with style and panache.
But, whatever. If you hate him and his characters so much, have fun doing so. I prefer remembering the good times when it was fun to read BattleTech novels and, yeah, you could read in his novels about big goddamn heroes.
Please stop trolling this thread.
Victor was ok..till he became what the universe rotated around. Same with stackpole..when he was not given free reign he was ok..you let him loose with nothing holding him back he did silly things.
There is a reason Bt fans call them victor and the superfriends. Anyone they faced acted totally stupid and different then they ever did before if they faced the superfriends.
Well, can we not argue over Victor Ian Steiner Davion in public? Please?
I'm not a fan of the character much myself, but it makes all of us Battletech fans look like "My Daddy Can Beat Up Your Daddy" idiots.
Well, can we not argue over Victor Ian Steiner Davion in public? Please?
It makes all of us Battletech fans look like idiots.
Yeah, agreed. I didn't even want to argue, I was just passing by to say when was my point when I mentally disconnected from the game.
Dude I was just poking fun at it, you went kinda postal over me poking fun at him.
Dude I was just poking fun at it, you went kinda postal over me poking fun at him.
a.) It's 2:30 a.m. over here, so I am kinda humour-impaired due to fatigue.
b.) I really am tired of Victor-bashing, which is why I don't regularly frequent BT boards. Getting it immediately upon mentioning his name is really kinda off-putting and a good reminder why BT fiction discussion is really not my thing. Given that most BT fans I've ever met at home or at conventions are mostly contrarians and really difficult to deal with, I probably should have expected that, though, so my bad for even mentioning the dreaded "V"-word.I better bugger off to bed before the next round of finger-pointing begins. ;)
Man if your gonna bring up one of the most disliked and often poked fun at super character, ya need to grow some thicker skin.
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Also, no one better be talking smack about the best Star Wars character of all time. I will tolerate absolutely nothing said against my hero (and personal savior), Jar Jar Binks.
Stop the trollin'.
I actually can't say anything about that character, as anything I might say would without doubt be flagged, removed and possibly earn me a vacation. So, no worries from me.
Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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Also, am I the only one who gets misty eyed over a 4e thread devolving into a flamewar that has nothing to do with 4e? It's like the dawn of a new era.
Or, alternatively, it's a sign that there is a terrible curse placed on the discussion of 4e that renders all such conversations into flamewars.
In either event, I am very amused. Particularly given the extreme niche-ness of the topic.
Anyone want to start a fight over whether That 70s Show jumped the shark because Donna got blonde hair?
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Bella Sara Charter Superscriber
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I actually can't say anything about that character, as anything I might say would without doubt be flagged, removed and possibly earn me a vacation. So, no worries from me.Also, no one better be talking smack about the best Star Wars character of all time. I will tolerate absolutely nothing said against my hero (and personal savior), Jar Jar Binks.
Stop the trollin'.
Flagged for the implication that you dislike Jar Jar Binks or, at the very least, don't love him as much as I do. How dare you provoke me like that!
Gundam > Battletech.
There, I win.
Macross > Gundam.
I win better. ;)
"You! star wars stravaga out of the thread. We have claimed it and no one has seen fit to offer a counter bid. So out with the lot of you"
Also, am I the only one who gets misty eyed over a 4e thread devolving into a flamewar that has nothing to do with 4e? It's like the dawn of a new era.
"You! star wars stravaga out of the thread. We have claimed it and no one has seen fit to offer a counter bid. So out with the lot of you"
*FACEPALM*
"You! star wars stravaga out of the thread. We have claimed it and no one has seen fit to offer a counter bid. So out with the lot of you"
Begone betrayer, we have come back to reclaim what is ours!
Not that I intend to actually post said rant, I just wanted to say 'captain flatulence'...
And how much longer before this ends up in Off-Topic?
So when do you think Paizo will be able to start publishing new Mystara products? That is my wish, hope, and dream.
Wasn't Mystara the setting they made the side-scrolling 'Beat-em-up' in?
Begone betrayer, we have come back to reclaim what is ours!
"You dare invoke the Not-Named! We shall annihilate you for you ill chosen daydreams, caste you body and your gifttake into the abyss. Those that claim the name of the annihilated share the same fate!"
Bring it on traitor to Kerenskey's vision!
Bring it on traitor to Kerenskey's vision!
"Say one who claims the legacy of those caste out by the founder. Those traitors to the clan, to Kerenskey and to the glory that was the Star league. You are worse then the ignorant traitor lords. You, who knew glory and honor and forsook it for greed and selfishness. You deserve nothing but annihilation and you shall have it"
I bid two stars of Medium omnimech and one point of elementals to defend this thread. What do you bid?
"You bid nothing. You do not have the right or the honor, you have no status, you are beneath bandits you are dead and not named. We shall end the corruption of life you are with every thing we have. You no nothing of the clans if you foolishly thought anything else"
It should be noted, the clans would glass a whole city if they though the not named hide there and would not leave. Those are people who are dead. They will not allow anyone or anything to stop the annihilation.
You are so blinded by hatred that you do not even ask how we have technology that your people did not develop until after we were driven out. Before you try and slay me do you not wish to know the answer Quiaff?
"Barged well and done"
Glasses city from orbit
Star Captain Fletcher gets shot from behind by his subordinate who drops a Wolverine pin on his body.
Even the Clans can't beat Chuck Norris!
Star Captain Fletcher gets shot from behind by his subordinate who drops a Wolverine pin on his body.
As they are dead, nope. . The star captain is from 3055, from the books published at that time..that not named is dead and has not been retconed to be wob. The dead can not do anything...get your fantasy out of my sci-fi damn it.
Even the Clans can't beat Chuck Norris!
Where do you think Elementals came from?
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Star Captain Fletcher gets shot from behind by his subordinate who drops a Wolverine pin on his body.As they are dead, nope. . The star captain is from 3055, from the books published at that time..that not named is dead and has not been retconed to be wob. The dead can not do anything...get your fantasy out of my sci-fi damn it.
Actually they mention in the Wolf Clan sourcebook that after the Trial of Annihilation there were less Wolverine casualties then expected. Also, Wolverine bloodlines occasionally popped up in the other clans like the Jade Falcons and were exterminated when they were found. But that does leave a possibility that there are survivors hidden inside the Clans themselves and there is still the mystery of the Minnesota Tribe.