Alright, so my PC's have just learned about the possibility of taking over the stolen lands as rulers. They have not yet surpassed level 1, but have begun to think big. While they understand they've got a long road ahead of them, they've already begun plotting against Brevoy and the sword lords. While they're going to run through the Kingmaker scenarios as heroes and leaders, doing as they're instructed, they have the plan to surmount a rebellion and take over as many kingdoms as possible.
Now, while the kingdom building rules and the way that the armies are described and kingdom vs. kingdom conflicts go, this should seem rather possible. Especially with powerful enough PCs. So my question is this: Where can I find detailed information on the nearby kingdoms, characters, and such. I have a long time to prepare this, but I need some information. And is it even possible for them to attempt this gigantic feat? By the time they finish all of the adventure paths, they should have ALOT of territory under their control. They will do everything they can to subvert the barbarians, etc... so anyways. Input?
There isn't a lot of detailed information, but there are a few things to note. The sixth adventure in Kingmaker has a section at the end actually describing this possibility and listing some advice.
Karui Kage wrote: There isn't a lot of detailed information, but there are a few things to note. The sixth adventure in Kingmaker has a section at the end actually describing this possibility and listing some advice. Ah, ok. I don't have the final kingmaker adventure yet, so I haven't had a chance to see it :p I'll have to remedy that.
The book you're looking for is "Guide to the River Kingdoms."
In particular, I'll recommend you direct your attention towards the writeup for "Mivon" as a good potential ally in taking out Brevoy. (Or a place for your upstart PCs to hail from.)
Vistarius wrote: Alright, so my PC's have just learned about the possibility of taking over the stolen lands as rulers. They have not yet surpassed level 1, but have begun to think big. While they understand they've got a long road ahead of them, they've already begun plotting against Brevoy and the sword lords. While they're going to run through the Kingmaker scenarios as heroes and leaders, doing as they're instructed, they have the plan to surmount a rebellion and take over as many kingdoms as possible.
Now, while the kingdom building rules and the way that the armies are described and kingdom vs. kingdom conflicts go, this should seem rather possible. Especially with powerful enough PCs. So my question is this: Where can I find detailed information on the nearby kingdoms, characters, and such. I have a long time to prepare this, but I need some information. And is it even possible for them to attempt this gigantic feat? By the time they finish all of the adventure paths, they should have ALOT of territory under their control. They will do everything they can to subvert the barbarians, etc... so anyways. Input?
Depends on if you want them to/if you think it will be fun to allow them to do so. Frankly, they will be beset by so many other threats in the AP that I doubt they will have the time or energy to turn against Brevoy unless you give it to them. Messing with Brevoy could also leave them really vulnerable to some of these other threats. Nothing like having your army trapped in the north when your neighbors to the south come calling with bad intentions.
And of course, if they miscalculate and move too soon, they will be squashed like bugs and hung from their own city gates. If they wait until they are high level, they might very well succeed in their plans if conquest. It might make a good plotline to continue after the end of the AP.
If they go this route, you should assume that Brevoy and other surrounding kingdoms have spies in the PC kingdom. It could be a very interesting campaign of international intrigue and dirty deeds, followed by some rousing mass combat when someone eventually gets mad and invades.
Brian Bachman wrote: Vistarius wrote: Alright, so my PC's have just learned about the possibility of taking over the stolen lands as rulers. They have not yet surpassed level 1, but have begun to think big. While they understand they've got a long road ahead of them, they've already begun plotting against Brevoy and the sword lords. While they're going to run through the Kingmaker scenarios as heroes and leaders, doing as they're instructed, they have the plan to surmount a rebellion and take over as many kingdoms as possible.
Now, while the kingdom building rules and the way that the armies are described and kingdom vs. kingdom conflicts go, this should seem rather possible. Especially with powerful enough PCs. So my question is this: Where can I find detailed information on the nearby kingdoms, characters, and such. I have a long time to prepare this, but I need some information. And is it even possible for them to attempt this gigantic feat? By the time they finish all of the adventure paths, they should have ALOT of territory under their control. They will do everything they can to subvert the barbarians, etc... so anyways. Input?
Depends on if you want them to/if you think it will be fun to allow them to do so. Frankly, they will be beset by so many other threats in the AP that I doubt they will have the time or energy to turn against Brevoy unless you give it to them. Messing with Brevoy could also leave them really vulnerable to some of these other threats. Nothing like having your army trapped in the north when your neighbors to the south come calling with bad intentions.
And of course, if they miscalculate and move too soon, they will be squashed like bugs and hung from their own city gates. If they wait until they are high level, they might very well succeed in their plans if conquest. It might make a good plotline to continue after the end of the AP.
If they go this route, you should assume that Brevoy and other surrounding kingdoms have spies in the PC kingdom. It could be a very interesting... Of course, there is also alot of other things to consider too. I warned them about the level thing ,and I'm sure they're going to wait. But one of them is a starborn (or whatever the new bloodline is) sorcerer and wishes to explore outerspace. I've toyed with the idea of them discovering a portal to one of the other planets and starting stuff that way. I've even wondered about more territory disputes with the first world. Lots of stuff to do and consider.
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