Playing up (to lvl 5)


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The Grandfather tells me you can't take your less-than-lvl-5-character to a lvl 5 scenario. Tell me he's wrong.

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He is right. Dragnmoon was doing a whole table showing what is allowed or not. Search for his post or maybe someone links to it.

Playing up sub-tiers - yes

Playing up tiers - no

So for a tier 5-9 you need to be level or higher.

Thod

Just realize after I bumped it up that it is sticky in the general discussion thread ...

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Entropi wrote:
The Grandfather tells me you can't take your less-than-lvl-5-character to a lvl 5 scenario. Tell me he's wrong.

Depends..

If it is a Tier 1-5 scenario you can play up from Sub Tier 1-2 to 4-5 if the APL (Average Party Level) is 2.5 or higher, but I would not suggest running a level 1, it will be harsh.

If it is Tier 5-9 the lowest level character you can have is Level 5 since you can only play up Sub-Tiers not tiers.

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As evident from Josh's answer, one can only play-up within the levels the scenarios are designed for. Playing up is only possible within sub-tiers. Playing down is only possible is a charactecters level falls between sub-tiers; i.e. in a tier 5-9 scenario (sub-tiers 5-6 and 8-9) a 7th level character would be eligible for both sub-tiers.


Hopefully this is on Hyrum and Mark's list of things to change, as not letting a 4th level character play a sub-tier 5-6 or not letting a 6th level play a sub-tier 7-8 is pretty silly when a 1st level could play up to sub-tier 4-5 or a 7th level could play up to sub-tier 10-11.

I was also pretty sure that the "play, play play" rule allowed playing up a sub-tier regardless of APL if that was the only way you could play.

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Enevhar Aldarion wrote:
I was also pretty sure that the "play, play play" rule allowed playing up a sub-tier regardless of APL if that was the only way you could play.

When used with an excess of caution. This should never be a 'normal' choice. It should be a difficult, last resort choice and these two rules are pretty much at direct odds with each other. "Play, play, play" is a fine rule for GMs to have as a last resort, it's a horrible, destructive club when players try to wield it.

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