[SPOILERS] Some errors I noticed in regards to Alicavniss Vonnarc


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Hi all,

I was going through "Endless Night" and adjusting Alicavniss Vonnarc to a higher level (since my players' pcs are of higher level than the suggested level for the adventure), when I realised that there are a few flaws in her stat block.

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For example, her initiative modifier should be +7, not +4, since her Dexterity modifier is +3 and she has the Improved Initiative feat. Her spell resistance should be 29 (11 + class levels [18] = 29). Her casting of mage armor seems redundant since she already has an armor bonus from a magical item (and it grants a higher bonus to boot).

Finally, her selection of spells seem to violate her prohibited schools (abjuration and enchantment). Banishment, greater dispel magic, stoneskin, and dispel magic are all of the abjuration school.

Besides a few other things that I thought were kind of pointless for Alcavniss to have, those are the primary errors I noticed (not including the silly typo about her gender). I am sorry if these errors were already pointed out in another thread (didn't see it when I did a quick search). Has anyone else noticed these errors and what changes have you considered to substitute the errors?

CB out.

Silver Crusade

Canadian Bakka wrote:

Hi all,

Finally, her selection of spells seem to violate her prohibited schools (abjuration and enchantment). Banishment, greater dispel magic, stoneskin, and dispel magic are all of the abjuration school.

I'm no authority on magic, but wizards are not bound the same restrictions as they once were in the previous editions. They can prepare and cast spells from their opposition schools, but those spells take up two slots rather than the one slot that any other spell take up.

I agree about the initiative issue. As for the spell resistance, she is a drow noble and as such their spell resistance is higher than common born drow (as is borne out in the Bestiary on pg. 115). In this particular adventure path, those that are drow nobles have feats such as Dark Adept and/or Umbral Scion (the latter feat is for females only and they must have the Dark Adept feat to qualify).


Blayde MacRonan wrote:
Canadian Bakka wrote:

Hi all,

Finally, her selection of spells seem to violate her prohibited schools (abjuration and enchantment). Banishment, greater dispel magic, stoneskin, and dispel magic are all of the abjuration school.

I'm no authority on magic, but wizards are not bound the same restrictions as they once were in the previous editions. They can prepare and cast spells from their opposition schools, but those spells take up two slots rather than the one slot that any other spell take up.

I agree about the initiative issue. As for the spell resistance, she is a drow noble and as such their spell resistance is higher than common born drow (as is borne out in the Bestiary on pg. 115). In this particular adventure path, those that are drow nobles have feats such as Dark Adept and/or Umbral Scion (the latter feat is for females only and they must have the Dark Adept feat to qualify).

Hi, Blayde, thanks for taking the time to respond. :)

First, I would normally agree with you on the issue of the prohibition of schools for wizards if Second Darkness was explicitly designed with Pathfinder RPG rules. It was actually designed with 3.5 Edition rules. Otherwise, they would have listed all of the upgrades wizards get in Pathfinder RPG in her stat block, such as increased HD and other new niffy class abilities, ;) And that's just the wizards. All of the rogues, fighters, duelists, etc., would have similarly received the new upgrades. No sarcasm intended, :)

Second, I was not pointing out that her Spell Resistance was too high. Rather, I was pointing out that it was too low (listed as 28). In 3.5 Edition, all drow have a Spell Resistance of 11 + class levels (page 103 of the 3.5 Edition Monster Manual). Granted, it is a 1-point so it is not a deal-breaker, ;)

Of course, these are not really that big a deal, and thus I was not actually complaining, per se, but rather pointing out errors that were present in the stat block for a major npc. I also find her outlined tactics and daily spells in effect to be a bit on the side of "Why would she even bother with that? There are other more effective ways." But again, that's a moot point. :)

I guess I should have phrased my original question as thus: "Who else has done alterations to Alicavniss's stat block or modified her to suit not just your campaign setting but also to your players' characters?"

CB out.

EDIT: Fixed one of the paragraphs as I accidentally wrote two sentences together. :)

Silver Crusade

Canadian Bakka wrote:
Blayde MacRonan wrote:
Canadian Bakka wrote:

Hi all,

Finally, her selection of spells seem to violate her prohibited schools (abjuration and enchantment). Banishment, greater dispel magic, stoneskin, and dispel magic are all of the abjuration school.

I'm no authority on magic, but wizards are not bound the same restrictions as they once were in the previous editions. They can prepare and cast spells from their opposition schools, but those spells take up two slots rather than the one slot that any other spell take up.

I agree about the initiative issue. As for the spell resistance, she is a drow noble and as such their spell resistance is higher than common born drow (as is borne out in the Bestiary on pg. 115). In this particular adventure path, those that are drow nobles have feats such as Dark Adept and/or Umbral Scion (the latter feat is for females only and they must have the Dark Adept feat to qualify).

Hi, Blayde, thanks for taking the time to respond. :)

First, I would normally agree with you on the issue of the prohibition of schools for wizards if Second Darkness was explicitly designed with Pathfinder RPG rules. It was actually designed with 3.5 Edition rules. Otherwise, they would have listed all of the upgrades wizards get in Pathfinder RPG in her stat block, such as increased HD and other new niffy class abilities, ;) And that's just the wizards. All of the rogues, fighters, duelists, etc., would have similarly received the new upgrades. No sarcasm intended, :)

Second, I was not pointing out that her Spell Resistance was too high. Rather, I was pointing out that it was too low (listed as 28). In 3.5 Edition, all drow have a Spell Resistance of 11 + class levels (page 103 of the 3.5 Edition Monster Manual). Granted, it is a 1-point so it is not a deal-breaker, ;)

Of course, these are not really that big a deal, and thus I was not actually complaining, per se, but rather pointing out errors that were present in the stat block for a major npc. ...

I see...

I thought this was a conversion issue and it would seem that it was not. My most sincere apologies. I must confess that since I've been playing Pathfinder I don't even think 3.5 any more...unless it has to do with conversions. ;)

No harm done.


The biggest mistake I noticed was that in her stat block, she's identified as MALE instead of female... =:-/

Cheers, JohnH / Wanda

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