How do driders come about?


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Can anybody explain to me how driders come into existence in the PFRPG world? Once the reason for their existence was that the failed a test of the drow goddess. But Lolth power doesn't spread to Golarion, does it?

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Nuwanda


Drow fleshweaving magic. Each race makes a different creature, drow make driders. I do not know the details of how this works however.

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Pathfinder #16 has a relatively large article about driders and the other mutants that drow can create with fleshwarping magic (including stats for what happens when this magic is applied to a troglodyte or a normal elf).

Unlike most of the mutants created by fleshwarping, though, driders remain fertile and can breed among themselves; that's why there's so many more of them than the other types of mutants.

Driders in Golarion are NOT generally a punishment from a divine source. They can be a punishment for a drow who prefers to be humanoid in shape, but the fact that the rules granted to a drider result in a stronger character means that in some cases, becoming a drider can even be a reward.


However, the process of fleshwarping is described as a torture. That doesn't sound like a reward to me.

Silver Crusade

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With the drow, you can never be sure what is pain and what is pleasure :)


Drow found the puzzlebox. Which explains alot

The Exchange

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seekerofshadowlight wrote:
Drow found the puzzlebox. Which explains alot

Damn it. Now I'm going to have to run a Drow game and have the Cenobites show up to offer the PCs a 'deal'.


Well pathfinder all ready has a god that found the Puzzle box after all.

Shadow Lodge

I'm pretty sure the Lament Configuration is an artifact with ties to Zon-Kuthon.

The Exchange

When a mommy drider and a daddy drider love each other very much...


Wolfthulhu wrote:
When a mommy drider and a daddy drider love each other very much...

That'd be when a mommy drow gets drunk enough that a daddy long legs starts looking good, I think. >_> <_<

Or when a..."backwoodsy" daddy drow gets isolated enough that a black widow gets appealing enough...

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Nuwanda wrote:
However, the process of fleshwarping is described as a torture. That doesn't sound like a reward to me.

Yeah; depends who you are, and who's doing the torturing. If there's ANY race out there that'd enjoy being tortured... it's the drow.


heeheehee!
and leperchauns.

Silver Crusade

Driders were one thing I never understood. Loth if I remember was a spider demon with a elven face and head. From what i understand, Driders, are "centaur" like half drow half spider creatures. I never understood why that transformation was a punishment, for failing the "test" administered by Loth. Through this punishment, the drow become more spider like, and more like the creature and Demon Loth which they venerate. Well anyways its a moot point, since Loth isnt part of Golaron. I actually like that. It leaves one free to come up with new ideas.


A little bit of history below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drider


Wolfthulhu wrote:
When a mommy drider and a daddy drider love each other very much...

Which actually brings up an interesting question: Driders are created through drow fleshwarping. But afterwards, are they a viable race? Can driders procreate on their own, or are they dependent on the drow to increase their numbers?

Dark Archive

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Shadowborn wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
When a mommy drider and a daddy drider love each other very much...
Which actually brings up an interesting question: Driders are created through drow fleshwarping. But afterwards, are they a viable race? Can driders procreate on their own, or are they dependent on the drow to increase their numbers?

See James in post 3 of this thread. Driders are the only fleshwarped race that is fertile, thus they are more numerous


it like in that movie the fly only it was a dark elf and a spider. So less scary then Goldbloom


I'm afraid I found a contradition in two Pathfinder Products. In Pathfinder 16 it says that Driders are cast out by the drow society and tha male driders are like spiders in that they tend to be ruthless hunters for blood.
However, in the Darklands-Setting we learn, that driders, especially male driders are kept as slaves and guards.

Which description is right?


Enlight_Bystand wrote:
Shadowborn wrote:
Wolfthulhu wrote:
When a mommy drider and a daddy drider love each other very much...
Which actually brings up an interesting question: Driders are created through drow fleshwarping. But afterwards, are they a viable race? Can driders procreate on their own, or are they dependent on the drow to increase their numbers?
See James in post 3 of this thread. Driders are the only fleshwarped race that is fertile, thus they are more numerous

0.o Somehow, that one line completely escaped my notice... Well, got my answer.

Grand Lodge

Nuwanda wrote:

I'm afraid I found a contradition in two Pathfinder Products. In Pathfinder 16 it says that Driders are cast out by the drow society and tha male driders are like spiders in that they tend to be ruthless hunters for blood.

However, in the Darklands-Setting we learn, that driders, especially male driders are kept as slaves and guards.

Which description is right?

I imagine both are correct.

Some are cast out and others are kept... doesn't HAVE to be all or nothing.

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Nuwanda wrote:

I'm afraid I found a contradition in two Pathfinder Products. In Pathfinder 16 it says that Driders are cast out by the drow society and tha male driders are like spiders in that they tend to be ruthless hunters for blood.

However, in the Darklands-Setting we learn, that driders, especially male driders are kept as slaves and guards.

Which description is right?

Correct. Both are right.

Not every drow city is the same. But one thing that most share in common is disdain for driders. In most of the drow cities under the Inner Sea, driders in a city are slaves. Or they're run out of town. The town of Umberweb is an exception.

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