Yeah, true, Canada actually dropped below 8% unemployment recently and is coming out of the slump. Amazing, since they did so without passing an economically crippling "stimulus package.I admit to being a bit snarky about throwing Canada in there. But, to be honest, European nations, by and large, don't have a huge tar sand deposit (did some Ft. McMurray time back in the day) to fund their social programs either.
It isn't just the oil sands but your fundamentally on the right track. Canadians have truly vast resources and we are extraordinary good at extracting them for an overpopulated world that wants to buy such products and will pay good money for them. That is what underlies our economy. Many of the Europeans could fund such programs as well, the Germans in particular, make truly excellent high quality manufactured goods and that is enough for them to maintain a strong economy which would allow them to support a large social safety net.
In the end its really a matter of being able to find enough of a niche in the world economy that you can support a powerful economy. Once you have that its reasonably possible to skim off that economy and create various forms of social safety nets.
In many cases such social safety nets are actual net benefits to the economy as a whole - similar to the net benefit a country gets from having good infrastructure. Cradle to Grave Health Care, As Canada and some of the Europeans run it, actually supports the rest of our capitalistic system.
Simply put a company that wants to set up shop should not be taking employees health care into account. Its an extra overhead cost that has no business being there - health care has nothing to do with making widgets.
I removed more posts. Political threads are flammable enough without the extra help, thanks.
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Let's see, the three in question weren't "rednecks" (assuming you're talking about Jasper), they were Aryan Brotherhood, an affiliation they picked up in prison. Two of the three were on very good terms with Mr. Byrd before they went to prison, and indicated no serious degree of racism before going to prison. They joined the AB as there is a serious problem with black inmates raping unaffiliated white inmates in prison. They developed their hard core racism in an institution, and cliqued up with a gang, designed to breed such thoughts. They get out, and in a town not known for overt, or even soft, racism (Jasper isn't Vidor, not by a long shot), they committed the act. There is zero indication of any political party affiliation by these three men who are legally barred from voting anyway.
So, you're making a blanket statement about the political right presumably upon a case in Texas you apparently only know the sketchiest of details about.
Sounds about right, typical play from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals": tell only enough of a story to support your point, discard everything that doesn't fit nicely with that point.
Pretty sure the playground is elsewhere guys. You can go measure them there. Don't know why you've got to be dragging down the tone here.
contained stuff deleted by RossLet's see, the three in question weren't "rednecks" (assuming you're talking about Jasper), they were Aryan Brotherhood, an affiliation they picked up in prison. Two of the three were on very good terms with Mr. Byrd before they went to prison, and indicated no serious degree of racism before going to prison. They joined the AB as there is a serious problem with black inmates raping unaffiliated white inmates in prison. They developed their hard core racism in an institution, and cliqued up with a gang, designed to breed such thoughts. They get out, and in a town not known for overt, or even soft, racism (Jasper isn't Vidor, not by a long shot), they committed the act. There is zero indication of any political party affiliation by these three men who are legally barred from voting anyway.
So, you're making a blanket statement about the political right presumably upon a case in Texas you apparently only know the sketchiest of details about.
Sounds about right, typical play from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals": tell only enough of a story to support your point, discard everything that doesn't fit nicely with that point.
You're assumeing I'm that smart.
1st sentence was a snarky comment to someone who claimed the liberals start most of the conflicts on the boards. I don't think they do.
2nd sentence again was a snarky comment about the amount of violence enacted on homosexuals by rednecks. Blacks arn't the only ones who get a beatdown.
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contained stuff deleted by RossLet's see, the three in question weren't "rednecks" (assuming you're talking about Jasper), they were Aryan Brotherhood, an affiliation they picked up in prison. Two of the three were on very good terms with Mr. Byrd before they went to prison, and indicated no serious degree of racism before going to prison. They joined the AB as there is a serious problem with black inmates raping unaffiliated white inmates in prison. They developed their hard core racism in an institution, and cliqued up with a gang, designed to breed such thoughts. They get out, and in a town not known for overt, or even soft, racism (Jasper isn't Vidor, not by a long shot), they committed the act. There is zero indication of any political party affiliation by these three men who are legally barred from voting anyway.
So, you're making a blanket statement about the political right presumably upon a case in Texas you apparently only know the sketchiest of details about.
Sounds about right, typical play from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals": tell only enough of a story to support your point, discard everything that doesn't fit nicely with that point.
You're assumeing I'm that smart.
1st sentence was a snarky comment to someone who claimed the liberals start most of the conflicts on the boards. I don't think they do.
2nd sentence again was a snarky comment about the amount of violence enacted on homosexuals by rednecks. Black arn't the only ones who get a beatdown.
Your specific reference to three men dragging another man behind a truck in a thread about goings on in Texas lead to only one story.
Your specific reference to three men dragging another man behind a truck in a thread about goings on in Texas lead to only one story.contained stuff deleted by RossLet's see, the three in question weren't "rednecks" (assuming you're talking about Jasper), they were Aryan Brotherhood, an affiliation they picked up in prison. Two of the three were on very good terms with Mr. Byrd before they went to prison, and indicated no serious degree of racism before going to prison. They joined the AB as there is a serious problem with black inmates raping unaffiliated white inmates in prison. They developed their hard core racism in an institution, and cliqued up with a gang, designed to breed such thoughts. They get out, and in a town not known for overt, or even soft, racism (Jasper isn't Vidor, not by a long shot), they committed the act. There is zero indication of any political party affiliation by these three men who are legally barred from voting anyway.
So, you're making a blanket statement about the political right presumably upon a case in Texas you apparently only know the sketchiest of details about.
Sounds about right, typical play from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals": tell only enough of a story to support your point, discard everything that doesn't fit nicely with that point.
You're assumeing I'm that smart.
1st sentence was a snarky comment to someone who claimed the liberals start most of the conflicts on the boards. I don't think they do.
2nd sentence again was a snarky comment about the amount of violence enacted on homosexuals by rednecks. Black arn't the only ones who get a beatdown.
Should have writen 'beaten and tied to a fence and left for dead'.
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Should have writen 'beaten and tied to a fence and left for dead'.Your specific reference to three men dragging another man behind a truck in a thread about goings on in Texas lead to only one story.contained stuff deleted by RossLet's see, the three in question weren't "rednecks" (assuming you're talking about Jasper), they were Aryan Brotherhood, an affiliation they picked up in prison. Two of the three were on very good terms with Mr. Byrd before they went to prison, and indicated no serious degree of racism before going to prison. They joined the AB as there is a serious problem with black inmates raping unaffiliated white inmates in prison. They developed their hard core racism in an institution, and cliqued up with a gang, designed to breed such thoughts. They get out, and in a town not known for overt, or even soft, racism (Jasper isn't Vidor, not by a long shot), they committed the act. There is zero indication of any political party affiliation by these three men who are legally barred from voting anyway.
So, you're making a blanket statement about the political right presumably upon a case in Texas you apparently only know the sketchiest of details about.
Sounds about right, typical play from Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals": tell only enough of a story to support your point, discard everything that doesn't fit nicely with that point.
You're assumeing I'm that smart.
1st sentence was a snarky comment to someone who claimed the liberals start most of the conflicts on the boards. I don't think they do.
2nd sentence again was a snarky comment about the amount of violence enacted on homosexuals by rednecks. Black arn't the only ones who get a beatdown.
Would have helped. Then gay bashing in Wyoming comes to mind. And, again, there was no mention of political affiliation there, either.
Some very traditional democrat voting blocks poll very poorly for the pro-gay rights side. Union members, blacks, Hispanics, and Catholics, particularly Italian and Irish Catholics are majority Democrat registered voters, and are majority anti-gay marriage.
I'm not going now.
I'm ascairt.
I'm not a tough guy. Even on the internet.
We'll reserve the right to secede from the fawtl room at any time.
Cept I'm ascairt, so I prolly won't be there.
Got nothing to do with having three mouths to feed and whatnot.