So... a third wtf. Another fine moment from Indiana.
Didn't want to make another thread... but here is another fantastic move of Indianas law enforcement...
Now, I've passed entry tests for the academy. My grandfather was a state trooper. I have friends that are indiana law enforcement.
These guys make real cops look bad.
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So... a third wtf. Another fine moment from Indiana.
See thats why the USA needs Provost Marshals...A Provost marshal would have been faxed a Death Warrant from the President's Office for the Officers participating in that and popped around to the Police Station and Executed them all for Resisting Arrest under charge of Treason.
Didn't want to make another thread... but here is another fantastic move of Indianas law enforcement...
Now, I've passed entry tests for the academy. My grandfather was a state trooper. I have friends that are indiana law enforcement.
These guys make real cops look bad.
That's what government is for. They look out for their own. Why would care what the surfs want?
That's what government is for. They look out for their own. Why would care what the surfs want?Didn't want to make another thread... but here is another fantastic move of Indianas law enforcement...
Now, I've passed entry tests for the academy. My grandfather was a state trooper. I have friends that are indiana law enforcement.
These guys make real cops look bad.
I'm not sure what the desires of ocean waves have to do with anything... ;)
You say that as if a) there isn't a fairly universal human tendency to protect one's own group against outsiders, and b) as if all government employees are corrupt. In my experience, government employees (of any level or country) are no different from any other large group of human beings, with a similar proportion of corrupt or otherwise ineffective members vs. the honorable, decent members. Government workers are hardly unique in attempts to cover up wrongdoing-- one has only to look as far as the financial meltdown or any human-created environmental disaster (like the recent oil spill off the Gulf Coast) to see plenty of that kind of behavior in corporations and the 'free market' as well.
But I suppose I should come clean and admit that I happen to be a federal employee, and I like to think I'm giving the taxpayers their money's worth when it comes to the work that I do. And so do the vast majority of my coworkers and friends who are government employees.
Why use a few bad examples (as the cops in that video most ASSUREDLY are) to cast aspersions upon everyone who happens to be part of that group?
That's what government is for. They look out for their own. Why would care what the surfs want?Didn't want to make another thread... but here is another fantastic move of Indianas law enforcement...
Now, I've passed entry tests for the academy. My grandfather was a state trooper. I have friends that are indiana law enforcement.
These guys make real cops look bad.
I'm not sure what the desires of ocean waves have to do with anything... ;)
You say that as if a) there isn't a fairly universal human tendency to protect one's own group against outsiders, and b) as if all government employees are corrupt. In my experience, government employees (of any level or country) are no different from any other large group of human beings, with a similar proportion of corrupt or otherwise ineffective members vs. the honorable, decent members. Government workers are hardly unique in attempts to cover up wrongdoing-- one has only to look as far as the financial meltdown or any human-created environmental disaster (like the recent oil spill off the Gulf Coast) to see plenty of that kind of behavior in corporations and the 'free market' as well.
But I suppose I should come clean and admit that I happen to be a federal employee, and I like to think I'm giving the taxpayers their money's worth when it comes to the work that I do. And so do the vast majority of my coworkers and friends who are government employees.
Why use a few bad examples (as the cops in that video most ASSUREDLY are) to cast aspersions upon everyone who happens to be part of that group?
I suppose because it's so consistent with my experience. I can't think of a time in my life when I've ever found a cop on the job to be the least bit useful to me.
That doesn't mean that no cop has ever been useful or even heroic, but in my experience they give out tickets and do paperwork at best.
I guess I should also say... that my posts aren't evidence of Indiana as a whole.
The rotten apples of the bunch so to speak. But, I'm always floored by my fellow Hoosiers actions.
I suppose because it's so consistent with my experience. I can't think of a time in my life when I've ever found a cop on the job to be the least bit useful to me.
That doesn't mean that no cop has ever been useful or even heroic, but in my experience they give out tickets and do paperwork...
Okay... that explains why you have a negative opinion of cops. Is it worth it to point out that cops do not comprise the whole of government?
I've had bad experiences with police officers, too-- try being a woman who reports a sexual assault to see the true underbelly of the police force sometime-- so I sympathize with the urge to generalize based on that. On the other hand, I also know a fair number who are decent, honorable human beings who really believe in the public service they're providing. I'm forced to conclude that police officers are human beings, with the same jerk to decency proportion as the rest of society. Go figure. ;)
I suppose because it's so consistent with my experience. I can't think of a time in my life when I've ever found a cop on the job to be the least bit useful to me.
That doesn't mean that no cop has ever been useful or even heroic, but in my experience they give out tickets and do paperwork...
Okay... that explains why you have a negative opinion of cops. Is it worth it to point out that cops do not comprise the whole of government?
I've had bad experiences with police officers, too-- try being a woman who reports a sexual assault to see the true underbelly of the police force sometime-- so I sympathize with the urge to generalize based on that. On the other hand, I also know a fair number who are decent, honorable human beings who really believe in the public service they're providing. I'm forced to conclude that police officers are human beings, with the same jerk to decency proportion as the rest of society. Go figure. ;)
I have a very low opinion of government in general.
I have a few friends in law enforcement. I never said they were all bad. Some have gotten away from law enforcement because they got sick of the focus on revenue generation and other issues.
I have a very low opinion of government in general.
Yes, I've noticed. I would point out that government institutions, like law enforcement, are composed of human beings. If you're going to condemn a particular group based on the actions of a few, then you might as well go whole hog and condemn all of humanity on similar grounds, right?
I have a few friends in law enforcement. I never said they were all bad. Some have gotten away from law enforcement because they got sick of the focus on revenue generation and other issues.
Your generalizations aren't intended to convey that all government employees (or all law enforcement officers, in the context of the thread) are bad? Then I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say there. Would you care to elaborate?
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I have a very low opinion of government in general.Yes, I've noticed. I would point out that government institutions, like law enforcement, are composed of human beings. If you're going to condemn a particular group based on the actions of a few, then you might as well go whole hog and condemn all of humanity on similar grounds, right?
I have a few friends in law enforcement. I never said they were all bad. Some have gotten away from law enforcement because they got sick of the focus on revenue generation and other issues.Your generalizations aren't intended to convey that all government employees (or all law enforcement officers, in the context of the thread) are bad? Then I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say there. Would you care to elaborate?
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I'm not a huge fan of "all of humanity" either.
Most government institutions do a poor job of what they are supposed to do. The fact that they are comprised of people is neither here nor there.
It's hard to say that any group has no one of redeeming value in it. That hardly makes any given group valuable.
Bureaucracies (both public and private) have a tendency to take on a life of their own where self preservation and perpetuation becomes more and more important relative to their theoretical purpose.
I have a very low opinion of government in general.Yes, I've noticed. I would point out that government institutions, like law enforcement, are composed of human beings. If you're going to condemn a particular group based on the actions of a few, then you might as well go whole hog and condemn all of humanity on similar grounds, right?
I have a few friends in law enforcement. I never said they were all bad. Some have gotten away from law enforcement because they got sick of the focus on revenue generation and other issues.Your generalizations aren't intended to convey that all government employees (or all law enforcement officers, in the context of the thread) are bad? Then I think I misunderstood what you were trying to say there. Would you care to elaborate?
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I'm not a huge fan of "all of humanity" either.
Most government institutions do a poor job of what they are supposed to do. The fact that they are comprised of people is neither here nor there.
It's hard to say that any group has no one of redeeming value in it. That hardly makes any given group valuable.
Bureaucracies (both public and private) have a tendency to take on a life of their own where self preservation and perpetuation becomes more and more important relative to their theoretical purpose.
Ah, I see. I think I understand what you're getting at, now. I'd personally find that to be a very depressing world view, but I think I see where you're coming from. I think it's true that human organizations tend to be self-preserving and self-perpetuating, much as human beings as individuals have instincts for self-preservation. When the negative consequences of that self-preservation and self-perpetuation outweigh the positive effects of the organization, it's problematic. I suspect that you and I would draw different lines about where the balance tilts from one to the other, though.
I reckon we are all products of our knowledge and experience.
I reckon we are all products of our knowledge and experience.
I'll agree with that one 100%
I honestly don't see what al the fuss is about, they did nothing wrong to warrent anything other than a don't do it again warning. Dissmissaal is too much of a punishment for some pictures. The young lady didnt mind so why is anyone upset as opposed to everyone. It was a boring thanksgiving shift and they were haveing soem fun. No nudity,no rape and everyone was haveing fun. I dont get it. Not trying to troll or flame or be deliberatly dense on the subject but reall I dont see what this behavior is taken as anything other than juvenale a slight reprimand issued and the whole thing forgotten.
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Didn't want to make another thread... but here is another fantastic move of Indianas law enforcement...
Now, I've passed entry tests for the academy. My grandfather was a state trooper. I have friends that are indiana law enforcement.
These guys make real cops look bad.
LaPorte County! I live in LaPorte County! Preposterous.
I reckon we are all products of our knowledge and experience.I'll agree with that one 100%
I honestly don't see what al the fuss is about, they did nothing wrong to warrent anything other than a don't do it again warning. Dissmissaal is too much of a punishment for some pictures. The young lady didnt mind so why is anyone upset as opposed to everyone. It was a boring thanksgiving shift and they were haveing soem fun. No nudity,no rape and everyone was haveing fun. I dont get it. Not trying to troll or flame or be deliberatly dense on the subject but reall I dont see what this behavior is taken as anything other than juvenale a slight reprimand issued and the whole thing forgotten.
It shows really bad judgment for cops to act this way on duty on camera in our highly litigious society.
Even if it was frivolous I don't think it would be too hard to get a lawyer to threaten a law suit.
Departments expect better from their LEOs in the age of you tube.
The first video doesn't trouble me nearly as much as the second which really ticks me off.
The cops taking pictures etc.. it doesn't really bother me. If it was a party and some guys were taking pictures of a willing sexy drunk girl I doubt I would be bothered by it.
But, these are sworn officers. They are here to protect and serve. Not take pictures of a hot drunk girl
I agree with BT. The first video didnt really do anything for me. Cops havin some fairly innocuous fun while on duty. Inappropriate, but not criminal.
The second video, though, actually made me angry. The man doing the taping showed a remarkable amount of restraint. The officer and the health inspector both need to be removed from their posts.
I agree with BT. The first video didnt really do anything for me. Cops havin some fairly innocuous fun while on duty. Inappropriate, but not criminal.
The second video, though, actually made me angry. The man doing the taping showed a remarkable amount of restraint. The officer and the health inspector both need to be removed from their posts.
+1. What gives that uppity revenure lady the right to just come on in to anyones property after being shown the signs agaisnt trespassing and being told to stay off. This is why he should have had a dog or two onsite. she wouldn't have been so brave with a few german shepards or dobbermans around.
+1. What gives that uppity revenure lady the right to just come on in to anyones property after being shown the signs agaisnt trespassing and being told to stay off. This is why he should have had a dog or two onsite. she wouldn't have been so brave with a few german shepards or dobbermans around.I agree with BT. The first video didnt really do anything for me. Cops havin some fairly innocuous fun while on duty. Inappropriate, but not criminal.
The second video, though, actually made me angry. The man doing the taping showed a remarkable amount of restraint. The officer and the health inspector both need to be removed from their posts.
Until the cop shoots them in front of the kids.
(See the "Very sad" thread.)