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You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
I wish the government was not even in the business of defining marriage and other adult relationships, but I wish the government wasn't in the business of a great many things.
You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
Stereotype much?
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LOL!
You got me.Nice.
No, not much, just "a good many" of the folks that watch Fox News.
HEY I WATCH FOX NEWS!!!!
But I do it to laugh hysterically at the insane ramblings of Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Shawn Hannity. Their the best sarcastic comedians I've ever seen, really awesome actors too you are almost convinced they believe what they're saying. Until you remind yourself no human alive is that crazy outside a mental institution. LOL
LOL!
You got me.Nice.
No, not much, just "a good many" of the folks that watch Fox News.
I have the same habit as well. I tend to stereotype the left in the same manner. I should know better.
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I have the same habit as well. I tend to stereotype the left in the same manner. I should know better.LOL!
You got me.Nice.
No, not much, just "a good many" of the folks that watch Fox News.
I think we all do that to some extent. I know I try hard not to stereotype conservatives. But some days I fail and I hate myself for doing it.
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I wish the government was not even in the business of defining marriage and other adult relationships, but I wish the government wasn't in the business of a great many things.You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
Seconded.
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I have the same habit as well. I tend to stereotype the left in the same manner. I should know better.LOL!
You got me.Nice.
No, not much, just "a good many" of the folks that watch Fox News.
One more threadjack, and then I'll get back on track:
I wish every political disagreement was handled the way you two were able to laugh that one off.
LOL!
You got me.Nice.
No, not much, just "a good many" of the folks that watch Fox News.
HEY I WATCH FOX NEWS!!!!
But I do it to laugh hysterically at the insane ramblings of Bill O'Reilly, Glenn Beck, and Shawn Hannity. Their the best sarcastic comedians I've ever seen, really awesome actors too you are almost convinced they believe what they're saying. Until you remind yourself no human alive is that crazy outside a mental institution. LOL
Hate to tell you this Jeremy but there are a lot of conservatives in America like myself who do share their points of view. (except Glenn Beck, who I agree is a nut.) If being sane is sharing your liberal view of the world, I'll just have to stay crazy. ;)
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Continuing with the (acceptable) Threadjack,
Gary, it's interesting you mentioned it that way.
For the last year or so I've been on a bit of an "Ecumenical-kick" regarding Left and Right.
When I talk to Right-winged individuals, it's very evident that our values of right and wrong are the same in almost every situation.
And that these are the values of all people. Only truly anti-social members of society disagree.
And, as a Left-winger, though I'm prone to want say, Those Right-wingers on their "lets kill abortion doctors" kick, the majority of right-wingers are, duh, against murder. Just like the majority of Left-wingers are, duh, against blowing up buildings of companies that destroy the environment.
Ultimately, we have the same basic moral compass.
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Continuing with the (acceptable) Threadjack,
Gary, it's interesting you mentioned it that way.
For the last year or so I've been on a bit of an "Ecumenical-kick" regarding Left and Right.
When I talk to Right-winged individuals, it's very evident that our values of right and wrong are the same in almost every situation.
And that these are the values of all people. Only truly anti-social members of society disagree.
And, as a Left-winger, though I'm prone to want say, Those Right-wingers on their "lets kill abortion doctors" kick, the majority of right-wingers are, duh, against murder. Just like the majority of Left-wingers are, duh, against blowing up buildings of companies that destroy the environment.
Ultimately, we have the same basic moral compass.
For the most part, I agree. There are some differences of opinion within the entire spectrum of course. Here is a good example that is somewhat on topic, I used to have trouble understanding the Log Cabin Republicans especially when it sometimes feels like the entire Republican party has moral concerns over homosexuality.
But then, I remember that there is a huge spectrum on both sides of the aisle when it comes to that topic and the Log Cabins are simply part of that spectrum. Once I got to know them, I actually respected them a heck of a lot more. They are standing in the line of fire more than I am, sitting here in my comfy, liberal self-righteousness.
That last part was for you, Garydee. ;) I think we should all be able to laugh at ourselves sometimes. And the liberals can be remarkably self-righteous at times, myself included. Which can be infuriating.
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You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
Too bad quite a few non-right wing fools also voted for Prop 8. Otherwise you would have had a great argument.
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Too bad quite a few non-right wing fools also voted for Prop 8. Otherwise you would have had a great argument.You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
Indeed. It is important to remember that a good number of Democrats also oppose gay marriage. This really isn't a right versus left issue.
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Indeed. It is important to remember that a good number of Democrats also oppose gay marriage. This really isn't a right versus left issue.Too bad quite a few non-right wing fools also voted for Prop 8. Otherwise you would have had a great argument.You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
Yep. Painting it as such does nothing to advance a truly important issue. Let's just concentrate on educating people and coming to an understanding that gay marriage isn't going to cause the collapse of Western Civilization and stop calling people who disagree names.
And Lefties think they're any less vulgar and crude than their counterparts.
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Indeed. It is important to remember that a good number of Democrats also oppose gay marriage. This really isn't a right versus left issue.Too bad quite a few non-right wing fools also voted for Prop 8. Otherwise you would have had a great argument.You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."
But every once in a while, when one hears a story like this, the rage comes again to the front of the mind.
What is it that makes a person believe he or she can legislate how people live their lives?
Yep. Painting it as such does nothing to advance a truly important issue. Let's just concentrate on educating people and coming to an understanding that gay marriage isn't going to cause the collapse of Western Civilization and stop calling people who disagree names.
And Lefties think they're any less vulgar and crude than their counterparts.
It's true. I'm as f*@@ing vulgar and crude as they come.
"Quarrels would not last long if the fault was only on one side." - La Rochefoucauld
<SNIP>You know, sometimes the feelings I have toward right wing beliefs simmers down to just a kinda "make fun of all the Fox-News-watching, right wing fools."</SNIP>
As long as we also make fun of the MSNBC-watching, left-wing fools. They're both out there, but as usual, the truth is someplace in between.
Sad story.
This story isn't really a gay-marriage issue, or at least not only that. The fact that the "healthier" partner was forced into a nursing home and all of his possessions where sold is what is extremely disturbing. Sadly, the elderly are often railroaded by the system that doesn't care about them.
So while I personally don't support gay marriage (though I support a legal framework like the ones these men tried to put into place), I support the living partner going after the government agencies for their behavior. Their treatement of these two is disturbing irregardless if they where partners or merely roommates.
What I find most amusing is that Fox News is portrayed as so extremely biased, when MSNBC is far more extreme, but it gets a pass because it's bias is liberal. Conversely, Fox's biased is exaggerated because they have the utter temerity to have a conservative bias.
I actually find they're both (rightfully) regarded as pretty terrible.
In fact, I first watched MSNBC on a recent business trip specifically *because* I heard it was so left-leaning. I wasn't disappointed, and found it to be as slanted as I was led to believe -- more opinion and mockery than news (just like what I've seen of Fox).
pres man is right. The truly horrific aspects of this incident have nothing to do with the orientation of the two, it could just as easily happened to a non-married elderly heterosexual couple.
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pres man is right. The truly horrific aspects of this incident have nothing to do with the orientation of the two, it could just as easily happened to a non-married elderly heterosexual couple.
Yes, but not likely to a married one. Hence the OP's assertion.
Although, after skimming the legal complaint, there does seem to be some indication that some of the government employees involved deliberately disregarded the legal documentation these men had because they found it distasteful. That's based on statements referred to in the complaint, although they would be hard to verify.
pres man is right. The truly horrific aspects of this incident have nothing to do with the orientation of the two, it could just as easily happened to a non-married elderly heterosexual couple.Yes, but not likely to a married one. Hence the OP's assertion.
I'm not entirely sure of that, or at least I'm not sure of all that happened wouldn't have happened if they were legally married. If a wife had fallen extremely ill, I have no real doubt that these agencies would have forced the husband into retirement home and sold off all of the couple's possessions. Now would he have been able to visit her on her deathbed, maybe if he could prove he was competent otherwise they might just keep him in the nursing home away from her.
What I find most amusing is that Fox News is portrayed as so extremely biased, when MSNBC is far more extreme, but it gets a pass because it's bias is liberal. Conversely, Fox's biased is exaggerated because they have the utter temerity to have a conservative bias.
MSNBC is pathetic, and everyone knows it, and they make only feeble, halfhearted attempts to pretend otherwise, so it sort of scoots on by. Fox News is biased, but they get slammed a LOT harder not because it's a conservative bias, but because they had the idiocy to choose "fair and balanced" -- which they're so obviously not -- as their tag line.
If MSNBC started running the words "Free of liberal spin!" on everything, you can bet they'd get slammed just as hard as Fox.
I usually watch MSNBC in the morning because I find their morning folks are better than FOX's. In the afternoon, I tend to prefer FOX. In the evening I'll usually watch CNN (to avoid the Olberman and OReilly usually).
You know who really piss me off? Those fence sitting moderates. I mean, come on! Pick a side, you fraking coward.
<SNIP> Fox News is biased, but they get slammed a LOT harder not because it's a conservative bias, but because they had the idiocy to choose "fair and balanced" -- which they're so obviously not -- as their tag line. </SNIP>
They are sorta asking for it.
Wasn't this thread about an elderly gay couple getting screwed over by their county goverment?
Wasn't this thread about an elderly gay couple getting screwed over by their county goverment?
Topic nazi!
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Frankly, I don't see any more bias in Fox than I do in CNN and other equivalent news programs. But as I said before, Fox has the temerity to let their bias be conservative, so they're crucified for it. Whereas the equivalent amount of liberal bias isn't even really noticed anymore, because it's become the standard.
Frankly, I don't see any more bias in Fox than I do in CNN and other equivalent news programs. But as I said before, Fox has the temerity to let their bias be conservative, so they're crucified for it. Whereas the equivalent amount of liberal bias isn't even really noticed anymore, because it's become the standard.
If its the standard then you should not be able to see any difference between MSNBC and CNN.
You know who really piss me off? Those fence sitting moderates. I mean, come on! Pick a side, you fraking coward.
In a country with such a strong two-party system, moderation is the bravest things of all!
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If its the standard then you should not be able to see any difference between MSNBC and CNN.
CNN is the amount of liberal bias that has become standard.
MSNBC is hateful bile vomited forth from people who think that anyone with conservative leanings should be imprisoned. For example, Rachel Maddow is so utterly hateful that it sickens me.
But of course, it's ok, because she directs her hatred towards conservatives. Plus she's a lesbian, so she gets a automatic liberal get-out-of-jail-free card.
Frankly, I don't see any more bias in Fox than I do in CNN and other equivalent news programs. But as I said before, Fox has the temerity to let their bias be conservative, so they're crucified for it. Whereas the equivalent amount of liberal bias isn't even really noticed anymore, because it's become the standard.
CNN shows as much bias as Fox? The "standard" in media is a liberal bias? Come on; why don't you just call it the "Drive-by Media?" There's definitely some bias showing here, but I'm afraid it's yours.
If its the standard then you should not be able to see any difference between MSNBC and CNN.
CNN is the amount of liberal bias that has become standard.
MSNBC is hateful bile vomited forth from people who think that anyone with conservative leanings should be imprisoned. For example, Rachel Maddow is so utterly hateful that it sickens me.
But of course, it's ok, because she directs her hatred towards conservatives. Plus she's a lesbian, so she gets a automatic liberal get-out-of-jail-free card.
Only the most extreme wackos think that "anyone with conservative leanings should be imprisoned."
As for your quip about lesbians getting "a [sic] automatic get-out-of-jail-free card," or your implication about liberals believing hate directed at conservatives is OK?
I HATE all those hateful liberals. LOL. You're part of the problem, dude.
IBTL
Wasn't this thread about an elderly gay couple getting screwed over by their county goverment?I wonder if we need to start a new thread.
Nope -- sorry about that. I'm done with the off-topics. It's just that hypocrisy (especially of self-righteous-but-oblivious variety)annoys me.
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Only the most extreme wackos think that "anyone with conservative leanings should be imprisoned."As for your quip about lesbians getting "a [sic] automatic get-out-of-jail-free card," or your implication about liberals believing hate directed at conservatives is OK?
I HATE all those hateful liberals. LOL. You're part of the problem, dude.
+1
Makes you wonder what a truely right-wing biased media outlet would look like in Kthulhu's world. Taliban T.V.?
Wasn't this thread about an elderly gay couple getting screwed over by their county goverment?Topic nazi!
BOOM! gotcha
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