not to be a newb about this i just cant ever remember, when you enhance armor does it reduce the check penalty?
not to be a newb about this i just cant ever remember, when you enhance armor does it reduce the check penalty?
Not in and of itself, no. Enchanting armor requires the armor to be masterwork, which reduces the armor check penalty by one. There are also materials and enchantments that can reduce the penalty as well.
Hope this helps.
so other than the initial reduction of 1 to the check penalty from master worked a basic enhancement such as +1 or +2 wont reduce it further.
would master-worked mythral scalmail have a check penalty of 0?
The inclusion of them being automatically masterwork as well is for the purposes of adding magical enhancements. You needn't pay for the additional to "masterwork" a mithril suit to add a +1 to it.
Same with Elven Chain (which is mithril chainmail), which has a -2 ACP and not -1.
so the best i can hope for is a acp of -1
I'm positive the MW bonus is already included in the mithril adjustments. Mithril chain shirts, however, do weigh a few pounds less than they "should." Just a bit of trivia.
so the best i can hope for is a acp of -1
Pathfinder fighters reduce it more, to a minimum of 0 with any armor.
thanks everyone for all your help, again sorry for sounding like a newb.
Also one of the traits reduces ACP by 1
what trait reduces ACP?
i found it its Armor expert
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From the free trait guide [COMBAT]
2 Armor Expert: You have worn armor as long as you can remember, either as part of your training to become a knight’s squire or simply because you were seeking to emulate a hero. Your childhood armor wasn’t the real thing as far as protection, but it did encumber you as much as real armor would have, and you’ve grown used tomoving in such suits with relative grace. When you wear armor of any sort, reduce that suit’s armor check penalty by 1, to a minimum check penalty of 0.