How Does this Lottery Work?


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Liberty's Edge

Will be attending this year for the first time. Hoping to do some gaming and I've seen references to a lottery for gaming during the con. Was wondering if I understood this correctly and can someone explain to me how it works?

The Exchange

You never know when things will change, but the way it worked last year I do know.

There will be like 30 or so events.

You are given the choice to rate 1-5. I forget if one or five is the top rated event of your choice.

If you rate the event as your top choice, it will be given highest priority during the first pick. Not a guarantee (see below).

Every batch of draws chooses people randomly, taking their first priority if still available. There are some events like playing with Jason Bulmahn that are extremely limited. There are only 6-8 seats to his game. The funny thing is, the draw may pick 30 or so people until it picks a person that wants to get into Jason's game. Remember, it is picking only from your highest priority of your list (and if that is met or impossible it goes on to your next highest). Once Jason's game is full, it no longer takes a person's choice if they chose Jason's Game. It moves on to a the person's second choice during this first batch of picks. Having completed a first batch of picks (everyone gets something picked), it then starts the process over again going down everyone's priority lists until they are either fulfilled or unable to accomodate.

It is possible to get absolutely nothing with your choices.

If you choose, 1. Jason Buhlmahn's Game, then 2. Eric Mona's Game, 3. Sean K. Reynolds Mini Painting Workshop, 4. Lilith's Game, 5. Wes's Game.

In the above example if you made these choices, you are really rolling the dice. Most of them can only take 6-7 people. If for some reason all these events are randomly filled before it gets to you on the first pick, then you get none of those. However, even if you rate an event as your lowest choice, you will still get something that first draw. It may have been at the bottom of your choices, but it will be used for the first pick.

You might think that putting everything as a "one" for your priority list would give it the highest priority, but in fact it makes your choices all the same in importance. Truly random. When you prioritize your selections, the picking for the first batch uses your highest priority first and then heads down the list if it is full.

You could have two or three "1s", like the games mentioned above so the computer could pick among those types before moving on to your number 2 choice.

If you are absolutely dying to get into a particular event, than give it your highest priority number. Multiple (same numeral) high priority numbers will just make that a random choice among those top numbers.

After the computer went and gave everyone their events, there were a few people that were really unlucky. I mean, bad unlucky. So, there was another date set for a second lottery. This was a lottery to choose between the remaining events. It went just like the above lottery but I think there was something different about it. I think the real unlucky folks got some priority or were given something as a compensation. It might have been a closed lottery just for them, I forget. They then opened up the lottery for a third time to fill up events.

Just so you know, the lottery is for an official seat at the event. However, if that seat is vacant you may attend the event. There was also people standing in certain events.

Advice?

If you want to game with the designers, make it your number one choice. They are the most sought after events at PaizoCon and most likely the one you won't get into. Best bet, choose multiple first choices for all the game designer games.

That is how it worked last year.

Liberty's Edge

I appreciate the information. We'll see if things are the same this year, but at least this gives me something to think about. Thanks!

The Exchange

You are certainly welcome.

Liberty's Edge

Zuxius wrote:
You are certainly welcome.

I am coming with my teenage son and would like to have him in the same events with me. Is there some way to insure that we both get events together?

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

Marc Radle 81 wrote:
Zuxius wrote:
You are certainly welcome.
I am coming with my teenage son and would like to have him in the same events with me. Is there some way to insure that we both get events together?

Yes, there is an option you can select that will preferentially schedule you and a friend into the same events together.

The Exchange

Marc Radle 81 wrote:
Zuxius wrote:
You are certainly welcome.
I am coming with my teenage son and would like to have him in the same events with me. Is there some way to insure that we both get events together?

Yes, but I think trying to get into the single table games around the designers is a long shot in this way.

There are some events that are in panel style. They are 50+ people size, and don't fill up easily. During these events you listen to Paizo Employees talk for about 1 hour concerning the event's title. There is also (or at least last year there was) a Grand Convocation on Friday, which has plenty of space as well as the large banquet on Saturday. All these events could find you two sitting side by side easily. But the Erik Mona game or Jason Bulmahn game? You should be happy if just one of you get to go to any of them.

I might also add that you can get into Pathfinder Society Scenario events with little difficulty. They had multiple GMs hosting the same event at many tables last year. Again, you should be able to play side by side in one of those.

One thing you can trust about Paizo, no one get's left behind. 50% of the enjoyment in all this is what you bring with you.

Liberty's Edge

Thank for the info!

Speaking of these Pathfinder Society games ... there are none in my area. If we wanted to play in a few at PaizoCon, could we? would we just make characters according to the PS rules? If so, does that mean we would be limited to 1st level games?

Shadow Lodge Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8

Marc Radle 81 wrote:

Thank for the info!

Speaking of these Pathfinder Society games ... there are none in my area. If we wanted to play in a few at PaizoCon, could we? would we just make characters according to the PS rules? If so, does that mean we would be limited to 1st level games?

You should be able to create 1st level Pathfinder Society characters, I know I made one for the Grand Convocation at least.

As to what games you'd be able to play in, I can't say for sure. I don't have any PFS games in my area either :(, so I'm sort of clueless to how things work.

I seem to recall a lot of sessions had pre-generated characters available, but those may have all been non-PFS games.


Marc Radle 81 wrote:

Thank for the info!

Speaking of these Pathfinder Society games ... there are none in my area. If we wanted to play in a few at PaizoCon, could we? would we just make characters according to the PS rules? If so, does that mean we would be limited to 1st level games?

You can also play pre-gens of the appropriate level, which will be available. Last year entire games were filled with pregens for the higher slot games.

However playing with your own 1st level (or even a 1st level pregen) would mean you could keep the character going forward.

Grand Lodge

I agree that the Pathfinder Society Scenarios generally had enough openings for everyone. I believe there's a downloadable document on the Paizo site for creating PSS-legal characters. It's not quite the same as regular Pathfinder characters. I believe you also have to register your character online with the Pathfinder Society (and be issued a number) for it to be legal at an event. Definitely something to take the time to do before you come!

As was mentioned, seminars and conferences also generally have a fair amout of space, while specific-DM scenarios tend to have only maybe 6 seats on average, and always fill up.

Another thing worth noting: In addition to the scheduled events, look around or ask around about pickup games! Probably half my gaming last PaizoCon was in such games, rather than scheduled events.

Many people often played in these sorts of things into the wee hours. Consequently, turnout at the next day's morning games on Saturday and Sunday tended to be understaffed, so you'll have better luck getting into a morning game as an alternate than one that takes place in the afternoon.


Are we shot an email giving us a heads-up for the lottery? I already bought my ticket...


The lottery won't happen until at least after we announce all of the events. We're considering some changes to the lottery this year but have nothing to say on the matter yet. Stay tuned.


Joshua J. Frost wrote:
The lottery won't happen until at least after we announce all of the events. We're considering some changes to the lottery this year but have nothing to say on the matter yet. Stay tuned.

Cool - thanks for the update!

Liberty's Edge

Interesting. Since this will be our first time attending, I didn't know about the lottery.

I do hope I'll be able to get into some cool games with my spouse. One of the reasons we're doing PaizoCon together (without the kids - woot!) is that we never see each other at GenCon.

Shadow Lodge

As someone who showed up at the convention last year without knowing about the lottery until it was far too late, definitely stay on your toes. I missed out on things I wanted to do because I didn't pay attention.

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