Urumi, how exactly does it work?

[King of Vrock]

Does the Urumi from the Pathfinder Campaign setting work like a Whip or is it more like a Polearm? I have a player who uses one that thinks it is more like a sword with reach. I contentd that it acts like whip in that it doesn't threaten at reach.

--Vrock Salt!

[Fatespinner]

If you search youtube for "urumi," you will see exactly what it is. It's basically a giant coiled metal spring with a sharp edge that is demonstrably useful both adjacently and at range.

[hogarth]

King of Vrock wrote:

Does the Urumi from the Pathfinder Campaign setting work like a Whip or is it more like a Polearm? I have a player who uses one that thinks it is more like a sword with reach. I contentd that it acts like whip in that it doesn't threaten at reach.

--Vrock Salt!

The 3.5 urumi works like a 3.5 spiked chain (except you can't trip with it).

[Piety Godfury]

I thought it was an ingredient in Soy Sauce

[hogarth]

Piety Godfury wrote:

I thought it was an ingredient in Soy Sauce

It's also the capital of the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region.

[Cpt_kirstov]

hogarth wrote:

The 3.5 urumi works like a 3.5 spiked chain (except you can't trip with it).

for the PFRPG one.... magic 8-ball says...... "try again later" it has been said that most of the items in the campaign setting will be updated to PFRPG in the adventurer's armory companion.

[King of Vrock]

Cpt_kirstov wrote:

hogarth wrote:

The 3.5 urumi works like a 3.5 spiked chain (except you can't trip with it).

for the PFRPG one.... magic 8-ball says...... "try again later" it has been said that most of the items in the campaign setting will be updated to PFRPG in the adventurer's armory companion.

Damn you Magic 8 Ball.... Damn you to Hell!!!

AA isn't out till April but I need some advice right now. The text is a little confusing, but the table shows it's clearly a Reach and Disarm weapon. So I guess it's just a long flexible long sword, but not a whip at all.

--Vrock Salt

[Paul Watson]

Fatespinner wrote:

If you search youtube for "urumi," you will see exactly what it is. It's basically a giant coiled metal spring with a sharp edge that is demonstrably useful both adjacently and at range.

Sample YouTube video

[Abraham spalding]

There is a bladed scarf in CoT that has reach... it's in the same book as the hellknight... since THAT is pathfinder made then it's likely that it kept its reach... which makes me think the Urumi would too.

[F33b]

Piety Godfury wrote:

I thought it was an ingredient in Soy Sauce

You say urumi, I say umami / urumi, umami / MSG and a brahmin army / let's call the whole thing off.

[King of Vrock]

I did the whole video search thing, but that doesn't really help with mechanics all that much... most of the videos are too grainy anyway.

--Vrock, Paper, Scissor

[Krome]

Another youtube example

Well, from the grainy videos I would say that it has reach because you can certainly nail someone with it from more than a square away, and it also is useful adjacent to the user, since the thing's blade is likely quite sharp the entire length.

I do think it might be more vulnerable to Sunders however, but not 100% so.

Definitely an Exotic Weapon.

Great for an NPC, but I don't think I would train in it as a PC. I can just see too much going wrong. In game terms I'm not sure what mechanics could be used against me, but for fluff, I can see LOTS going wrong.

:)

[King of Vrock]

Well the Bard player wondered if it was whip like enough for his proficiency in whip to cover it... thus far I have ruled it's not whip like enough.

--Beware of Vrock slides

[Krome]

yeah I agree it's not enough like a whip to use that proficiency. I definitely think it has to be an Exotic Weapon.