Okay, I can't find this referenced anywhere on the boards as the Draconomicon isn't SRD however, as pathfinder Missed the opportunity for an Undead Dragon template in the Bestiary I thought i'd have a go at comparing a PFRPG Ancient Blue Dragon with the Lich Template, against the sample Ancient Blue Dracolich in the Draconomicon and the SRD Monster Manual Ancient Blue Dragon.
I'm considering converting a current D20 campaign from Paizo with a really humongous Dracolich in an encounter into Pathfinder, but I needed to see what the alterations would do to the encounter.
I'm a bit of a sadist so I wrote down all the pertinent abilities just to compare once the various templates had been applied.
I've omitted the Special feats and stuff as the numbers are the most important thing for the time being.
SRD Blue Dragon
Average hit points 445 33D12+221
AC 38
STR 35 +7
DEX 10 +0
CON 25 +7
INT 20 +5
WIS 21 +5
CHA 20 +5
Fort +25
Ref +18
Will +23
BAB +33
Bite Attack +41 4D6+12
Breath Weapon DC33
Draconomicon Blue Dracolich
Average hit Points 214 33D12+0 (no Con Score)
AC 40
STR 35 +7
DEX 10 +0
CON -- -
INT 20 +5
WIS 21 +5
CHA 22 +6
Fort +18
Ref +18
Will +23
BAB +33
Bite Attack +41 4D6+12
Breath Weapon DC32
Pathfinder Blue Dragon
Average Hit points 324 24D12+168
AC 37
STR 35 +7
DEX 8 -1
CON 25 +7
INT 20 +5
WIS 21 +5
CHA 20 +5
Fort +21
Ref +13
Will +19
BAB +24
Bite Attack +33 4D6+18
Breath Weapon DC29
Pathfinder Blue Dragon Lich
Average Hit points 252 24D8+144
AC 37
STR 35 +7
DEX 8 -1
CON - -
INT 22 +6
WIS 23 +6
CHA 22 +6
Fort +21
Ref +13
Will +19
BAB +24
Bite Attack +33 4D6+18
Breath Weapon DC28
Ac worse
Attack bonus worse, damage slightly better.
Hit points 40ish better.
Breath weapon DC's worse
Any ideas from the good folks of the Paizo messageboards how this could be implemented, with minor disruption to the original creature?
And finally, Please Paizo, in the Next Bestiary can we have an official Undead Dragon template to play with? As a certain geographical Fissure is calling, to my players!
Been discussed here before. No need for a special template, as the standard lich can now be applied to just about anything. So you can make a dracolich out of any dragon with the lich template.
Been discussed here before. No need for a special template, as the standard lich can now be applied to just about anything. So you can make a dracolich out of any dragon with the lich template.
The same is true of the Vampire template, for the record. No need to make up special templates for either of the BBEG dragons in that adventure.