yellowdingo
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Any thoughts on why we dont like to talk about the Human Species that was smarter than our own? Is there a surpression of Truth because our religious philosophies have told us we are number one? I realize now that being one of the few people with a 214 IQ probably doesnt rate highly against the other Human with a Brain fifty percent larger than mine.
| Carnivorous_Bean |
Any thoughts on why we dont like to talk about the Human Species that was smarter than our own? Is there a surpression of Truth because our religious philosophies have told us we are number one? I realize now that being one of the few people with a 214 IQ probably doesnt rate highly against the other Human with a Brain fifty percent larger than mine.
There are some people who can't resist taking a dig at religion at any opportunity, aren't there? You atheists are absolutely obsessed with religion. I suppose it's because you can only define your own beliefs as a negative, since the only things you 'believe' in are you own genitals, money, and nothingness. I mean, I don't start every damn thread I write with "the atheists must support this because they believe in infanticide and nihilism," do I? Give it a freaking rest for once.
Watch, now my post will be 'redacted,' because religion isn't politically correct, even though you attacked first. But I'm sick of the fact that you atheists feel you can turn EVERY topic into a bash-fest of religion, while if religious people DARE to say anything, it's a sign of bias, unreasonable behavior, stirring up trouble, whatever. Honestly, ditch the obsession.
Now you're basically saying that Darwinian evolution is some kind "omGzz Reeligious plot!!!1eleventy!!"
And as for this fruitcake theory that the fragments of one skull from Africa, which was apparently last described in 1913, constitute proof positive of a more intelligent variety of human 10,000 years ago, I'll believe it when I see more proof. Have you seen how they were reconstructing dinosaurs in 1913??? Until I see more evidence, I'm placing it in the category of "the same as the idea that the Earth's axis tilted over recently and Chicago is now sitting on the equator, but the government is hiding it so nobody noticed."
And if they're there -- so what? Very interesting. I'd be interested to find out why they went extinct myself. However, given the many possibilities -- including that these few fragments were inaccurately measured way back then (gee, imagine that), or that they didn't simply come from an individual with some unfortunate pathological problem with the skull -- I'm not going to get very excited about some super-race without more proof.
By the way, nice detail on claiming IQ over 214. Establishing some unverifiable personal authority to be taken seriously, eh? :)
Larry Lichman
Owner - Johnny Scott Comics and Games
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yellowdingo wrote:Any thoughts on why we dont like to talk about the Human Species that was smarter than our own? Is there a surpression of Truth because our religious philosophies have told us we are number one? I realize now that being one of the few people with a 214 IQ probably doesnt rate highly against the other Human with a Brain fifty percent larger than mine.
There are some people who can't resist taking a dig at religion at any opportunity, aren't there? You atheists are absolutely obsessed with religion. I suppose it's because you can only define your own beliefs as a negative, since the only things you 'believe' in are you own genitals, money, and nothingness. I mean, I don't start every damn thread I write with "the atheists must support this because they believe in infanticide and nihilism," do I? Give it a freaking rest for once.
Watch, now my post will be 'redacted,' because religion isn't politically correct, even though you attacked first. But I'm sick of the fact that you atheists feel you can turn EVERY topic into a bash-fest of religion, while if religious people DARE to say anything, it's a sign of bias, unreasonable behavior, stirring up trouble, whatever. Honestly, ditch the obsession.
Now you're basically saying that Darwinian evolution is some kind "omGzz Reeligious plot!!!1eleventy!!"
And as for this fruitcake theory that the fragments of one skull from Africa, which was apparently last described in 1913, constitute proof positive of a more intelligent variety of human 10,000 years ago, I'll believe it when I see more proof. Have you seen how they were reconstructing dinosaurs in 1913??? Until I see more evidence, I'm placing it in the category of "the same as the idea that the Earth's axis tilted over recently and Chicago is now sitting on the equator, but the government is hiding it so nobody noticed."
And if they're there -- so what? Very...
If you can disregard the religious inference from the OP, I think you'll find it is an interesting article.
Make sure you click the link to the original article from Discover magazine at the end of the OP's link. There is a lot more to the story than some bone fragments.
Check it out. It's an interesting read...
| Tim4488 |
Carnivorous_Bean wrote:...lotta words...Feeling grumpy today...?
Naw, Bean's right. I have a fair number of religious friends and a fair number of staunchly atheist friends (not to mention the agnostics, freethinkers, skeptics, Brights...) and am myself somewhere in the middle. I find myself arguing the goods of nontheism to the theists, and arguing the goods of theism to the nontheists. People on both sides can be very unreasonable sometimes.
EDIT: Course, he makes some broad generalizations about "you atheists," but that's because the atheists that are more reasonable don't talk about it as often, so people don't notice as much.
... Hey! kind of like religious folk...
| jocundthejolly |
Did graduate work in evolutionary anthropology. It is no secret that certain extinct hominins had brains larger than ours. It is widely known, for example (anyone with a Paleoanthropology 101 education would know), that Neandertals' brains were larger than those of Homo sapiens (sapiens). Anthropocentrism is alive and well (among unbelievers and religionists), but there is no anthropocentric conspiracy of any kind (at least, any effective anthropocentric conspiracy) to suppress the fact that our species is not the biggest-brained hominin in the history of this planet.
| Urizen |
There are some people who can't resist taking a dig at religion at any opportunity, aren't there? You atheists are absolutely obsessed with religion. I suppose it's because you can only define your own beliefs as a negative, since the only things you 'believe' in are you own genitals, money, and nothingness. I mean, I don't start every damn thread I write with "the atheists must support this because they believe in infanticide and nihilism," do I? Give it a freaking rest for once.
CB, it's time to monitor your pulse and caffeine intake. :D But honestly, given I'm one of those "you athiests", I am kind of taken back at your response. Not all of us are the same in the sense that not all Christians are cut from the same cloth.
I personally don't have a problem with religion. I only have a problem with those that cram it down others throats but can't remove the mote out of their own eye as to their narrowmindedness and/or ignorance regarding their own origins.
Quid pro quo. :D
| Shadowborn |
I realize now that being one of the few people with a 214 IQ probably doesnt rate highly against the other Human with a Brain fifty percent larger than mine.
You do realize you're speaking in glowing terms of a species that no longer exists, yes?
Bigger brain, smaller brain, I'm the one living long and prospering.
Crimson Jester
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Any thoughts on why we dont like to talk about the Human Species that was smarter than our own? Is there a surpression of Truth because our religious philosophies have told us we are number one? I realize now that being one of the few people with a 214 IQ probably doesnt rate highly against the other Human with a Brain fifty percent larger than mine.
Thank you for the link. Please in the future consider how you approach your opening statements. Also, please remember the old adage "It is not the size that matters, it is how you use it"
Andrew Turner
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I still don't see how YD's question is offensive, or why it would incite. Objectively, I think any religious-based rant flowing from the original post must be stemming from some other combination of perceived slight, and this, at best, might count as the proverbial straw. Most major religious philosophies do promote Man as the highest form on the planet. Being an RC, I think I can suitably say this is Rome's position.
| Kirth Gersen |
Brain size doesn't necessarily correlate directly to intelligence. It has more to do with connections between neurons than with sheer mass.
Correct. Even among H. sapiens there's a very large standard deviation in brain volume, and no statistically-significant correlation between volume and IQ.
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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...found that this human-like skull was capable of protecting a brain 25 percent larger than our own.
Human + 25% = "Human-Like Skull"
Now just think, our brains are said to be 25 percent larger than those of the now defunct Homo erectus.
Homo erectus + 25% = Human
If we were able to accomplish so much with a brain 25 percent larger than a Homo erectus, what could a brain 50 percent larger do?"
(Homo erectus + 25%) + 25% = Homo erectus + 50% ?
Somebody needs a bigger brain.
yellowdingo
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Tim4488 wrote:Brain size doesn't necessarily correlate directly to intelligence. It has more to do with connections between neurons than with sheer mass.Correct. Even among H. sapiens there's a very large standard deviation in brain volume, and no statistically-significant correlation between volume and IQ.
Its OK to feel inadequate...I'm a god and I feel inadequate for the task.
| Tim4488 |
Kirth Gersen wrote:Its OK to feel inadequate...I'm a god and I feel inadequate for the task.Tim4488 wrote:Brain size doesn't necessarily correlate directly to intelligence. It has more to do with connections between neurons than with sheer mass.Correct. Even among H. sapiens there's a very large standard deviation in brain volume, and no statistically-significant correlation between volume and IQ.
I'm not even sure what you're going for anymore.
Vic Wertz wrote:math stuffSchool 'em, Vic!
Haha. Win.
| Orthos |
yellowdingo wrote:I'm not even sure what you're going for anymore.Kirth Gersen wrote:Its OK to feel inadequate...I'm a god and I feel inadequate for the task.Tim4488 wrote:Brain size doesn't necessarily correlate directly to intelligence. It has more to do with connections between neurons than with sheer mass.Correct. Even among H. sapiens there's a very large standard deviation in brain volume, and no statistically-significant correlation between volume and IQ.
It's yellow, none of us do.
| Kirth Gersen |
Evidently they found a bunch of them. The article linked here is still pretty bad (leaping to the oft-untrue "larger brain = smarter" conclusion -- which would imply that elephants are five times smarter than humans), but it's slightly better than the one with the Outer Limits still that Dingo linked.
| Kirth Gersen |
THIS seems to be a much better article than either of the above.
And THIS ONE, by a paleoanthropologist, is by far my favorite. It's also not far from what you were suggesting, CJ -- a group of primitive people (although not "a guy") with thick skulls, otherwise similar to the later Khoikhoi and San peoples in the same region.
Crimson Jester
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Crimson Jester wrote:You are a geologist correct?That's my day job. By night I'm a Pathfinder super-villain, the infamous "Houserule-Man."
Ain't that the truth!
Anyhow, how has your games changed due to knowledge of geology?
I know that after going caving with my kids with scouts, most caves are fairly hard to enter let alone go through.
| Kruelaid |
smart guys vanish
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That was rich. He roped you CB.
Also, I don't think dingo typifies atheists.
| Kruelaid |
Regarding this Boskop man thing. Smells fishy to me. I call BS. You been had, dingo. 214 IQ. LOL. And I'm Bill Gates.
| Kirth Gersen |
Regarding this Boskop man thing. Smells fishy to me. I call BS. You been had, dingo. 214 IQ. LOL. And I'm Bill Gates.
Dude, you recycled my link.
| Kirth Gersen |
Anyhow, how has your games changed due to knowledge of geology?
This is going to sound really pathetic, but I actually drew tectonic maps of the homebrew world, then figured out global wind patterns, and redrew the maps so that all of the mountains would be correctly located, the rivers would flow realistically, and things like wind-shadow deserts would be located in the right places. Anywhere I had limestone caves, I redrew the map to reflect karsting, and made the surface water features reflect that.
The thing is, one of the other players was a fellow geologist. No one else would notice, but then I'd see him peering at the maps intently, and then he'd exclaim, "Nice! These mountains here must be andesitic!"
yellowdingo
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Kruelaid wrote:Regarding this Boskop man thing. Smells fishy to me. I call BS. You been had, dingo. 214 IQ. LOL. And I'm Bill Gates.Dude, you recycled my link.
Black Holes expand forward and Backward through time from point of origin.
Damn right 214 IQ. If I'm the only one who can solve that, you are in a lot of poop.
| Kirth Gersen |
No he didn't.My last link
Those are copied using the "reply" function: no cheating. I might lie about minor things, like my tax return, but never about something so momentous as a link in the off-topic threads.
Heathansson
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Crimson Jester wrote:Anyhow, how has your games changed due to knowledge of geology?This is going to sound really pathetic, but I actually drew tectonic maps of the homebrew world, then figured out global wind patterns, and redrew the maps so that all of the mountains would be correctly located, the rivers would flow realistically, and things like wind-shadow deserts would be located in the right places. Anywhere I had limestone caves, I redrew the map to reflect karsting, and made the surface water features reflect that.
The thing is, one of the other players was a fellow geologist. No one else would notice, but then I'd see him peering at the maps intently, and then he'd exclaim, "Nice! These mountains here must be andesitic!"
Yeah; too sciency.
(J/K that's cool).
Heathansson
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[url=http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/brain/paleo/lynch-granger-big-brain-boskops-2008.html]My last linkThose are copied using the "reply" function: no cheating.Heathansson wrote:No he didn't.[url=http://johnhawks.net/weblog/reviews/brain/paleo/lynch-granger-big-brain-boskops-2008.html]His link
He discovered it on his own, like Columbus discovered america after the vikings, chinese, and egyptians did.
See, he didn't read your post cos it was all sciency.