recently i was reading the ruels for polymorphing and they state pretty clearly that when you asume the form of an animal,elemental,plant(as in wild shap)you do NOT gain the benifit of armor.
but what about shild bonus? it seems odd but RAW seems to only state that your armor bonus is lost
recently i was reading the ruels for polymorphing and they state pretty clearly that when you asume the form of an animal,elemental,plant(as in wild shap)you do NOT gain the benifit of armor.
but what about shild bonus? it seems odd but RAW seems to only state that your armor bonus is lost
There is another rules thread open on this. The polymorphing rules do suggest it, but if you check the wild enhancement it also seems as though they intended for shields to have that enhancement before the shield bonus can be applied to wild shape. The other thread was not answered yet either. Hopefully they will get to it soon. For now I will say they can't since that would pretty much do away with the reasoning for getting a wild enhancement on a shield.
Treantmonk implied that the shield bonus does assist you while wildshaped in his Druid guide. It's likely just a crack in the rules that allows it but PF Druids need whatever they can get.
Treantmonk implied that the shield bonus does assist you while wildshaped in his Druid guide. It's likely just a crack in the rules that allows it but PF Druids need whatever they can get.
We both agreed it works by RAW, but it may not have been intentional since shields are required to have the wild enhancement in the magic item section. This ended with him saying consult your DM.
i found the other post relationg to this matter thx for pointing me in the right direction.
now it would still be nice with some official ruling or eratta on this
recently i was reading the ruels for polymorphing and they state pretty clearly that when you asume the form of an animal,elemental,plant(as in wild shap)you do NOT gain the benifit of armor.
but what about shild bonus? it seems odd but RAW seems to only state that your armor bonus is lost
As other's have stated, RAW implies it works. My suggestion would be to have continuous effect items like bracer's of armor continue to function, and have actual armor and shields require the Wild enhancement or a form that can wear armor and hold a shield. This is pretty clearly the intention, and it is more likely a typo that all armor bonuses even if not from worn armor would disappear, while your wildshaped tower shield retains it's bonus AC and loses it's armor check penalties while you are flying around as a pigeon.
It may be a crack in Paizo's editing but not past my DMing. Shields are no different other than armor in that they're physically weared items. Especially given that they actually have to be present to block blows, my call on them is not only do they go away, the "Wild" enchantment specifically can not be placed on them.
But assuming you did allow Wild shape what would be your ruling?
I'm expecting errata will close the loophole that allows shield bonus to carry on with wildshape.
As LazarX says (and I said in the OP of a similar thread), intuitively, you would not expect a shield that is absorbed into a wild shape form to still provide a protective bonus.
If I was to guess, I would expect shield bonus will be lost when you wildshape, but I also expect shields will be able to use the "Wild" enchantment.
(Note that currently, even though the Wild Enchantment says it can be used on shields, it suffers the same problem as the Polymorph rules, where "Shield Bonus" isn't specifically stated as a type of bonus that it allows to continue in Wildshape.
So by RAW currently, you still get your shield bonus when wildshaped
but if that alone was errated, you could put a Wild enchantment on a shield, but it wouldn't do you any good.
I'm wondering if it would be reasonable to have a buckler not be absorbed, considering.
If so, I'd probably require 'improved buckler' to make any use out of it.