Upgrading a Mithral Shirt to a +1 Mithral Shirt


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Recently I played a scenario and now I want to pick up a Mithral Shirt.

I've currently got about 1,250 gp. The armor costs 1,100 gp, so no problems there. Later, if I want to upgrade it to be a +1 Mithral Shirt I should only need to spend 1,000 gp (as a Mithral Shirt is automatically masterwork). I was told that while I only need to pay 1,000 gp to do the upgrade, I'd need to have on-hand the full equivalent (1100 gp for mithral shirt + 1000 gp for the +1 bonus = 2,100 gp).

That sounds VERY odd, though he mentioned that it was clarified somewhere here on the boards. I've yet to find any clarification, but my search-fu has been known to be weak at times and I don't want to screw things up too badly. Please help!

Thanks.

/Paul

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PaulK wrote:

Recently I played a scenario and now I want to pick up a Mithral Shirt.

I've currently got about 1,250 gp. The armor costs 1,100 gp, so no problems there. Later, if I want to upgrade it to be a +1 Mithral Shirt I should only need to spend 1,000 gp (as a Mithral Shirt is automatically masterwork). I was told that while I only need to pay 1,000 gp to do the upgrade, I'd need to have on-hand the full equivalent (1100 gp for mithral shirt + 1000 gp for the +1 bonus = 2,100 gp).

That sounds VERY odd, though he mentioned that it was clarified somewhere here on the boards. I've yet to find any clarification, but my search-fu has been known to be weak at times and I don't want to screw things up too badly. Please help!

Thanks.

/Paul

To my understanding you need only the 1000 for the upgrade, but you need the Prestige Award appropiately to buy 2,100 unless you find one as a reward


Correct. You only need to pay the difference for the upgrade but you need the appropriate prestige level for the final cost of the item to be able to upgrade it.

Grand Lodge

It surprise me that you need the prestige award rating even though a +1 Mithral Shirt is "Always Available" from pg 22 (Always Available Items) as:

2100 gp for a +1 Mithral Shirt Armor = (1000 gp magic bonus + 1000 gp mithral material + 100 gp chain shirt)

It seems then that it make more sense then to hold off, and buy the +1 Mithral Shirt as "Always Available" for a lump sum of 2100 gp as "Always Available" rather than having to wait an absolute minimum of 6 more scenarios to build up the 13 prestige. The way I see it, by banking approximately two scenarios (perhaps only one, depending on the group) it is possible to buy the same thing. Is that how it's actually intended?

Not trying to cause problems or be a cheese weasel, just confused.

/Paul


I'm inadvertently being confusing here. :-/

In the case of the mithril shirt, a +1 mithril shirt is always available. To upgrade from a mithril shirt to a +1 mithril shirt, you just have to pay the +1 armor cost.

In general, when not dealing with items that are always available, in order to upgrade to a new item you need the appropriate prestige level. For example, should you upgrade from the always available +1 mithril shirt to a +2 mithril shirt, you would pay the difference between +1 armor and +2 armor, but you could only do so if your prestige level allowed you to purchase the +2 mithril shirt as a stand-alone purchase.

Grand Lodge

Joshua J. Frost wrote:

I'm inadvertently being confusing here. :-/

In the case of the mithril shirt, a +1 mithril shirt is always available. To upgrade from a mithril shirt to a +1 mithril shirt, you just have to pay the +1 armor cost.

In general, when not dealing with items that are always available, in order to upgrade to a new item you need the appropriate prestige level. For example, should you upgrade from the always available +1 mithril shirt to a +2 mithril shirt, you would pay the difference between +1 armor and +2 armor, but you could only do so if your prestige level allowed you to purchase the +2 mithril shirt as a stand-alone purchase.

Ah, that makes perfect sense. Confusion is now abated. Thanks!

/Paul

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