Help with custom trait


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Scarab Sages

Hello. I am trying to create a new trait and wanted some advice to keep it balanced. Basically, it will provide a bonus to Knowledge Arcana checks, but only when the character has access to a fairly sizable library. I am not sure if +2 or +3 would be appropriate. The player is much more interested in flavor than the bonus, but I want to keep it in line with the other traits.

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

Liberty's Edge

I like the concept, lets see what can we do.

mmm I suppose your player is a wizard, yet the trait should give him Knowledge: Arcana as a class skill (this can be taken aby a cleric or sorcerer or anything else anyway)

mmm ok most traits only give a +1 trait bonus to the specific roll asked by the trait, but some give an extra benefit.

Here the reference is that he needs access to the library... so lets try this, example:

Arcane Researcher: You grew in the halls and bookshelves of arcane power, now you are not only familiar with researching methods, but feel more at home between books than among people. You earn a +1 trait bonus to Knowledge: Arcana and this becomes a class skill. Besides if you have access to a well documented arcane library (the GM decides what 'well documented' means in his game), you can chose to take 10 or take 20 on the knowledge roll, but it only takes half the normal time.


Montalve wrote:

I like the concept, lets see what can we do.

mmm I suppose your player is a wizard, yet the trait should give him Knowledge: Arcana as a class skill (this can be taken aby a cleric or sorcerer or anything else anyway)

mmm ok most traits only give a +1 trait bonus to the specific roll asked by the trait, but some give an extra benefit.

Here the reference is that he needs access to the library... so lets try this, example:

Arcane Researcher: You grew in the halls and bookshelves of arcane power, now you are not only familiar with researching methods, but feel more at home between books than among people. You earn a +1 trait bonus

not finished yet!

Continuing on the idea:

When in an actual library you may use Knowledge[arcane] in place of another knowledge check, however it takes you 1d6x10 minutes to find the information you need.

Dark Archive

Montalkve is pretty spot on about the fact that most traits give a +1 bonus then a secondary effect.

So, what you COULD do, is give them a +1 bonus on knowledge arcana checks, then a secondary +1 bonus if they are in a library.

Liberty's Edge

Dissinger wrote:

Montalve is pretty spot on about the fact that most traits give a +1 bonus then a secondary effect.

So, what you COULD do, is give them a +1 bonus on knowledge arcana checks, then a secondary +1 bonus if they are in a library.

trait finished in my original post :P

sorry... duty called and it was priority :D

Liberty's Edge

Abraham spalding wrote:
Montalve wrote:

I like the concept, lets see what can we do.

mmm I suppose your player is a wizard, yet the trait should give him Knowledge: Arcana as a class skill (this can be taken aby a cleric or sorcerer or anything else anyway)

mmm ok most traits only give a +1 trait bonus to the specific roll asked by the trait, but some give an extra benefit.

Here the reference is that he needs access to the library... so lets try this, example:

Arcane Researcher: You grew in the halls and bookshelves of arcane power, now you are not only familiar with researching methods, but feel more at home between books than among people. You earn a +1 trait bonus

not finished yet!

Continuing on the idea:

When in an actual library you may use Knowledge[arcane] in place of another knowledge check, however it takes you 1d6x10 minutes to find the information you need.

mmm Abraham, I like this option too... could be could be


Your finished version is very nice too. Normally the bard is the only class that can take 20 on a knowledge check, however needing to be in a library with the trait would be a hamper in the "normal" adventure, but when available could make a huge difference in the result of the check. Very nice.

Scarab Sages

Wow, thanks for the help everyone! Both ideas are much more creative than my initial thought, and they really capture the flavor of using a library. I think I will use the "take 10 or 20" approach, and I am sure the player will be thrilled.

Thanks again!

Liberty's Edge

good both of you liked the idea :)
i know one or two of my players would love such an idea, considering Absalom and Korvosa and a few other cities have very good libraries (without counting the Pathfinder's own library) I thought this would be a good and interesting use for such a place :)

Liberty's Edge

by the way, i am taking this trait to add to my article for the Wayfinder #2... Tools of the Trade: devilhunter

thanks for the idea :)

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