Ok, so I have a rogue/swashbuckler/shadowdancer who is part of an 18th level party. This party will soon be going up against their evil counterparts (also played by us).
The player of the evil fey'ri sorcerer has stated that he doesn't fear my Hide in Plain Sight or my ring of invisibility because he has glitterdust...so now pretty much all my stealth is gone with a *censored* 2nd level spell. True, I could go toe-to-toe with him using my improved feint, surprising riposte and such, but why should I do that when I don't have to?
SO. I would like some help from all you wonderful people here at paizo. The way I figure it if I can become ethereal before I strike then it will still negate my invisibility, but at least the dust won't adhere to my person and make me take a -freakin' 40(!) to my hide check.
How to go ethereal though? Any magic items, feats or class abilities that can help me? Oh, also this is NOT Pathfinder, simply 3.5-3.0. (I'm trying to get the DM to convert, but he does not have the book yet), so no Pathfinder-only feats, spells or abilities will be any help.
Can anyone be of assistance?
Armor of etherealness and the obsidian steed figuring of wondrous power are two methods.
Ok, so I have a rogue/swashbuckler/shadowdancer who is part of an 18th level party. This party will soon be going up against their evil counterparts (also played by us).
The player of the evil fey'ri sorcerer has stated that he doesn't fear my Hide in Plain Sight or my ring of invisibility because he has glitterdust...so now pretty much all my stealth is gone with a *censored* 2nd level spell. True, I could go toe-to-toe with him using my improved feint, surprising riposte and such, but why should I do that when I don't have to?
SO. I would like some help from all you wonderful people here at paizo. The way I figure it if I can become ethereal before I strike then it will still negate my invisibility, but at least the dust won't adhere to my person and make me take a -freakin' 40(!) to my hide check.
How to go ethereal though? Any magic items, feats or class abilities that can help me? Oh, also this is NOT Pathfinder, simply 3.5-3.0. (I'm trying to get the DM to convert, but he does not have the book yet), so no Pathfinder-only feats, spells or abilities will be any help.
Can anyone be of assistance?
Said 3.5 sorcerer still has to SEE you first to tag you with the glitterdust - especially if you are not snogging on invisibility for your stealth.
Also, do you have access to spell turning? If he targets you directly with it ... oops. spell immunity may or may not work against glitterdust in 3.5 though.
ring of greater counterspelling is also the countermeasure of choice for non spell casters... from Magic Item Compendium.
Ok, so I have a rogue/swashbuckler/shadowdancer who is part of an 18th level party. This party will soon be going up against their evil counterparts (also played by us).
The player of the evil fey'ri sorcerer has stated that he doesn't fear my Hide in Plain Sight or my ring of invisibility because he has glitterdust...so now pretty much all my stealth is gone with a *censored* 2nd level spell. True, I could go toe-to-toe with him using my improved feint, surprising riposte and such, but why should I do that when I don't have to?
SO. I would like some help from all you wonderful people here at paizo. The way I figure it if I can become ethereal before I strike then it will still negate my invisibility, but at least the dust won't adhere to my person and make me take a -freakin' 40(!) to my hide check.
How to go ethereal though? Any magic items, feats or class abilities that can help me? Oh, also this is NOT Pathfinder, simply 3.5-3.0. (I'm trying to get the DM to convert, but he does not have the book yet), so no Pathfinder-only feats, spells or abilities will be any help.
Can anyone be of assistance?Said 3.5 sorcerer still has to SEE you first to tag you with the glitterdust - especially if you are not snogging on invisibility for your stealth.
Also, do you have access to spell turning? If he targets you directly with it ... oops. spell immunity may or may not work against glitterdust in 3.5 though.
ring of greater counterspelling is also the countermeasure of choice for non spell casters... from Magic Item Compendium.
It will not be terribly difficult for the sorcerer to see me while I have a negative !!!FORTY!!! to my hide check, when I only had a plus 37 to begin with.
The spell is a ten foot radius burst, does not target me specifically....and spell resistance does not apply. It also does not allow a save vs. the negative to hide. This spell is a *%$#ing nightmare. WAAAAAY overpowered if you ask me, at least for a second level spell.Not familiar with ring of greater counterspelling.
Armor of etherealness and the obsidian steed figuring of wondrous power are two methods.
Where can I find these magic items? Not near my books right now.
Armor of etherealness and the obsidian steed figuring of wondrous power are two methods.Where can I find these magic items? Not near my books right now.
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A ring of counterspelling is a ring, in which a wizard casts a spell. If, after that, that specific spell is cast at you, it is automatically counterspelled, aka does not go off.
Note that it has to be a spell that's cast at the wearer, so that generally excludes area effects like Glitterdust, I think.
A ring of counterspelling is a ring, in which a wizard casts a spell. If, after that, that specific spell is cast at you, it is automatically counterspelled, aka does not go off.Note that it has to be a spell that's cast at the wearer, so that generally excludes area effects like Glitterdust, I think.
True - but a rash caster could attempt to directly target the wearer of the ring ...
Glitterdust has a verbal component.
Ask a friendly cleric or bard to scribe you a scroll of silence (second level spell).
It has a duration of 1 minute/level and can be dismissed (considering the 18th level of your character and, by extension, his allies we're looking at a potentially hefty duration).
Use Magic Device on a scroll is 20 + caster level. Activate it on yourself.
Assuming max ranks for an 18th level character (21) and a +2 CHA bonus (conservatively), activating a caster level three scroll of silence would succeed on anything but a natural 1. A three minute duration would still be 30 combat rounds of that sorcerer not casting any spells with a verbal component . . .
Unless the sorcerer has the Silent Spell feat.
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How about buying a 5,500 gp Wind Fan? It'll do gust of wind once a day with no risk (20% cumulative chance of breaking and becoming useless for more uses in the same day).
Glitterdust is a Conjuration (creation) spell, so the dust is an actual physical thing. I'd rule that it'd be affected by one round's worth of 50 mph winds that'll knock down small creatures and prevent mediums from moving forward. Hey, if it can stop 200 pounds of manflesh, it should scatter some glitter with ease.
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I'd avoid mirror images, blur, and/or displacement because if the sorcerer has see invisibility, he probably also has true seeing (I'm actually surprised the see invisibility hasn't been swapped out yet).
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But with the silent spell feat, he would lose access to his highest level spells and it would take him a full action to cast any of his spells.
Depending on your damage output and his concentration bonus, I'd also say that readied actions are your best friend. He goes to cast a spell and... Sneak attack from a [insert sorcerer's race here] bane, magebane, holy crossbow with a lesser crystal of energy assault. Just hope you have enough d6's.
Also, if you lack the ranks in UMD, you can always get a ring of spell storing. The lesser version is 18000 and can store up to 3 levels of spells, which you can just pay some magic shop guy to cast silence into it for 60g. Problem with silence is that if you center it on a person (meaning it will move with that person) they get a save to negate it. So, you would have to put in in a tight area, or on yourself and stay close, or just some other way to make sure he stays in the area (since I'll assume his will save is through the roof).
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Actually... Blink might be a viable choice (or Greater Blink from the spell compendium). Greater Blink would solve all of your problems, as you would just need to ready an action to blink away to the ethereal plane, wasting his spell. It's 5th level, so the UMD check on a scroll wouldn't be hard. If that's not viable, then blink offers you an easy way to become ethereal, although it's only for half the time. You get a 50% chance to avoid anything that doesn't affect ethereal targets, while you only suffer a 20% miss chance on your attacks. Keep in mind though, that while blinking you are effectively attacking while invisible and you get the +2 bonus as well as denying your opponent their Dex bonus to AC. Damn, I never really considered how good of a trade off that spell really is for a rogue.
I'm not entirely sure how it interacts with Glitterdust though, quite honestly. You get a 50% chance to avoid direct spells, but you take half damage from area spells. Glitterdust doesn't do damage, but it is an area. But, regardless of what happens with Glitterdust, it doesn't help them while you're ethereal, so I guess it really doesn't matter.
Hope this helps!
EDIT: BTW, the ring of blinking is 27000. It's in the DMG
Oh, and glitterdust trumped by a third level spell. Circle of life