New (returning) DM Resources Needed


3.5/d20/OGL

Liberty's Edge

Hi All,

I'm an old-guard (38 is old for a gamer, right?) 1st-edition AD&D player who left the RPG world when D&D 3rd was released (I couldn't get past the pronoun-swapping, it just sounds WRONG).

Well I decided it's time to get back into the games, and while I love the simplicity and easy-to-DM nature of 4th edition, it doesn't feel like D&D to me. Fun, surely, but not what I was looking for.

I read through the Pathfinder Beta rules, and while I like what I see (except the pronoun switching is still there, darn tree-hugging hippy crap), it feels somewhat incomplete--are there any resources for new DMs wanting to start a PF game around?

Thanks!


Random Brown wrote:

Hi All,

I'm an old-guard (38 is old for a gamer, right?) 1st-edition AD&D player who left the RPG world when D&D 3rd was released (I couldn't get past the pronoun-swapping, it just sounds WRONG).

Well I decided it's time to get back into the games, and while I love the simplicity and easy-to-DM nature of 4th edition, it doesn't feel like D&D to me. Fun, surely, but not what I was looking for.

I read through the Pathfinder Beta rules, and while I like what I see (except the pronoun switching is still there, darn tree-hugging hippy crap), it feels somewhat incomplete--are there any resources for new DMs wanting to start a PF game around?

Thanks!

You're coming back on the very cusp of the release of the "final" publication of the Pathfinder Core Rules book at about 13th August. Might I suggest either acquiring the $10 PDF or the hardcover, or even getting the subscription pronto to get both of these for the book price alone ?

There are also web enhancements for the Beta rules, as well as various posts in the pertinent play-test threads incorporating revisions to the Beta rules. Versions, variations or mutations of all of these exact items (between the web enhancements and threads) in addition to the revisions you are getting 'sneak previews' of in the Paizo Blog are all being integrated into the finished product.

You could also try out HackMaster Basic (by Kenzerco) - which harkens back to much more "old skewl" in that the first book has levels 1 - 5 inclusively. Other alternative game systems abound based off of the d20 OGL as well.

Good luck! And welcome to the boards!

Liberty's Edge

Turin the Mad wrote:

You're coming back on the very cusp of the release of the "final" publication of the Pathfinder Core Rules book at about 13th August. Might I suggest either acquiring the $10 PDF or the hardcover, or even getting the subscription pronto to get both of these for the book price alone ?

There are also web enhancements for the Beta rules, as well as various posts in the pertinent play-test threads incorporating revisions to the Beta rules. Versions, variations or mutations of all of these exact items (between the web enhancements and threads) in addition to the revisions you are getting 'sneak previews' of in the Paizo Blog are all being integrated into the finished product.

You could also try out HackMaster Basic (by Kenzerco) - which harkens back to much more "old skewl" in that the first book has levels 1 - 5 inclusively. Other alternative game systems abound based off of the d20 OGL as well.

Good luck! And welcome to the boards!

I downloaded the beta and I ordered the core book at my FLGS, so I'm ready to go as soon as August 13th comes. My players (currently my 11 and 10 year old kids and a few of their school friends) like the 4e adventure I'm running (KOS), but when my son saw and read the introduction to Rise of the Runelords, he asked me to run that instead!

My thought when I read the beta rules was that it targeted someone who already knew the 3.5 system--will the full book have more introductory material for the new (or newly-returning) DM?

Thanks again!

Liberty's Edge

Random Brown wrote:
My thought when I read the beta rules was that it targeted someone who already knew the 3.5 system--will the full book have more introductory material for the new (or newly-returning) DM?

This is indeed the case; the beta has enough rules in it to play the beta version of the rules, but you're expected to have a 3.5 Edition Player's Handbook as well (to look up rules that aren't mentioned in the Beta).

I'll recommend d20srd.org as a site to use as a reference. They have most of the 3.5 rules up to be read for anyone who's curious.

I also seem to recall Paizo saying that they were thinking on releasing a starter set for Pathfinder RPG, but it's a ways off. Still, if you have any questions, feel free to ask them here; we're a friendly group of folks who won't have any problem answering your questions. : )

Welcome to the boards, by the way. :D


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Liberty's Edge

Lilith wrote:

[shameless plug]

Save this website in your bookmarks. It's in the process of some redesign and rework, but you'll be able to generate encounters, treasure, towns, NPC ideas, and access over 1300 stat blocks for easy use in your game.
[/shameless plug]
** spoiler omitted **
Oh, and WELCOME to the boards! Have some cookies! *hands out the virtual cookies*

Great resource, thanks!

*hmmm cookie*


Random Brown wrote:
Lilith wrote:

[shameless plug]

Save this website in your bookmarks. It's in the process of some redesign and rework, but you'll be able to generate encounters, treasure, towns, NPC ideas, and access over 1300 stat blocks for easy use in your game.
[/shameless plug]
** spoiler omitted **
Oh, and WELCOME to the boards! Have some cookies! *hands out the virtual cookies*

Great resource, thanks!

*hmmm cookie*

I strongly expect the PF Core Rules to have the guidance you seek therein, in addition to this community message board and other resources such as Lilith's website.

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