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Battle For Terra, Where Earth is the Bad guy!
Does not look that bad..
I saw this at a film festival last year. The plot isn't anything that will get it any awards, but the animation is fantastic. Just in terms of technical achievement it is nearly Pixar good, although their storywriting is no where on that level.
The entire world that the aliens inhabit, from their clothing to "appliances" to their ships is very organic, in that it all reflects the nature of the aliens and you can see how one flowed from the other.
If you are a fan of animation, I'd recommend seeing it on a big screen, but it probably isn't worth full price admission. Go catch it on a digital screen as a matinee.
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This is like the second time someone has gone right wing nutjob on a film here, cause they percieve it as a politically correct attack on poor white males. The other one I saw was about how someone was dissappointed that Star Trek (actually Rick Berman)didn't allow gay characters. That other poster mocked the originator by saying that all movies now need one of every type of person to satisfy the PC crowd.
Naw, it couldn't be that this guy just wants to be included. Or that Battle for Terra wants to be an interesting morality tale with a different perspective.
Nope, everything is an attack on traditional values, guns, and "real Americans". Just like the screaming, ranting, condescending, whiny, insecure, bullying, paranoid, delusional "reporters" on Fox news tell you.
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This is like the second time someone has gone right wing nutjob on a film here, cause they percieve it as a politically correct attack on poor white males.
Nope, everything is an attack on traditional values, guns, and "real Americans". Just like the screaming, ranting, condescending, whiny, insecure, bullying, paranoid, delusional "reporters" on Fox news tell you.
Actually, I didn't see anyone say anything about white males, or America. I don't know if you are referencing my comment, but I was responding from the standpoint of having recently seen The Day The Earth Stood Still, where the message was very blatantly that the Earth will only survive if we give up everything that makes 21st century society what it is, anywhere in the world. I was also poking fun at Hollywood, not at this movie. In fact I am planning on seeing Battle For Terra, because it looks like an excellent critique on colonialism, much like the original War of the Worlds.
It's also interesting that you assume that anyone who is conservative is unable to think for themselves and watches Fox News. Speaking for myself, the only news I watch is the local news and the NBC Nightly News. I guess they must be part of the right wing nutjob conspiracy too.
Edit: However, you must admit that there is a trend of only allowing white guys to be villains these days.
It's also interesting that you assume that anyone who is conservative is unable to think for themselves and watches Fox News. Speaking for myself, the only news I watch is the local news and the NBC Nightly News. I guess they must be part of the right wing nutjob conspiracy too.
Hmmmm ...
Now that you mention it ...
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Edit: However, you must admit that there is a trend of only allowing white guys to be villains these days.
Can't say I've really noticed that. Movies I’ve watched or re-watched in the last two weeks:
Iron Man. Ok, main villain was a white guy, but the guy you are supposed to think is the main villain for most of the movie (and is still a villain and all round bad guy) is of Middle Eastern appearance.
Wanted. The guy you’re supposed to think is the villain is white, the actual villain is not.
Monsters Vs Aliens. Ok, so it’s a cartoon about monsters and aliens, but the villain is purple, not white. ;-)
No Country For Old Men. Assuming that Anton is the villain, he’s Hispanic rather than white-bread white.
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Edit: However, you must admit that there is a trend of only allowing white guys to be villains these days.Can't say I've really noticed that. Movies I’ve watched or re-watched in the last two weeks:
Iron Man. Ok, main villain was a white guy, but the guy you are supposed to think is the main villain for most of the movie (and is still a villain and all round bad guy) is of Middle Eastern appearance.
Wanted. The guy you’re supposed to think is the villain is white, the actual villain is not.
Monsters Vs Aliens. Ok, so it’s a cartoon about monsters and aliens, but the villain is purple, not white. ;-)
No Country For Old Men. Assuming that Anton is the villain, he’s Hispanic rather than white-bread white.
I must be watching different movies then.
Vantage Point: The guy you are supposed to think is the villain is Middle Eastern, but it turns out he's a victim too and the actual villian is white.
The Day The Earth Stood Still: Mankind is the villain.
The Race To Witch Mountain: Main villain is white.
Bolt: Okay it's a cartoon, but the main "villain" is white and looks and sounds just like Ed Bagley Jr.
Monsters Vs. Aliens: Got me on that one
If the movie is about, "Humans are bad, m'kay." I would find that very disappointed. The impression I got from the trailers was that the Earth was gone and people were search desperately for a place to settle to ensure the survival of the species, the most basic biological imperiative. It looks like from the trailers the leader of the humans decides that instead of risking being rebuffed by the locals and potentially giving them time to prepare, he decides that they must do a first strike to ensure that the human race gets to settle on the planet thus giving them a chance for the future. If the actually details are much more shallow then that, well, lazy thinking isn't anything new for hollywood.
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If the movie is about, "Humans are bad, m'kay." I would find that very disappointed. The impression I got from the trailers was that the Earth was gone and people were search desperately for a place to settle to ensure the survival of the species, the most basic biological imperiative. It looks like from the trailers the leader of the humans decides that instead of risking being rebuffed by the locals and potentially giving them time to prepare, he decides that they must do a first strike to ensure that the human race gets to settle on the planet thus giving them a chance for the future. If the actually details are much more shallow then that, well, lazy thinking isn't anything new for hollywood.
It is _slightly_ less shallow than that, but only just.
Humans have been the heroes far too often.
I'd actually want a movie where there is an aggressive, alien invasion force - and it comes from planet Earth.
Sounds like this might deliver on that.
Other than that, it's always this alien species, or that fantasy race, with humans being on both sides at most (or, rather, different cultures, something the other races get so rarely). Too few real cases where the truly hostile alien species, or aggressive fantasy race is the humans.
Humans really have what it takes to be real villains, but no one seems to have the guts to "sell out their own race" and cast them as such.
I think I'll have to become a director. I could outperform Lucas (of course, that isn't saying much nowadays).
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My apologies then Mr. David Fryer. Some of the ire from reading the other thread must have transfered over. I probably should have made my main posting there.
No problem. I have spoken out of turn on occasion myself. The real secret is to put it behind us and move on. Live and let live I always say.