
Kobold Catgirl |

How much time do you have at the moment Kobold Cleaver? I may drop a big dragon on the doorstep of the servants of the board if that would be okay and you don't have much else going on for the next hour or so. It's just that if I do start it, I'd prefer to resolve it tonight.
I should be online for about three hours now, so I believe the answer is 'yes', I will be online long enough. :p

Kobold Catgirl |

Basically, Daelemos is fine with the idea of Tarvek popping off to fight and/or humiliate Kobold Cleaver, but would prefer Aidan and the Bard not to have 'such quick easy exits'.
The trouble is, they already left. I posted their entry into the Eyrie already. Unfortunately, that means that my 'amendment' is invalid.

Charles Evans 25 |
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Daelemos calling Joek 'his lordship Joek' was intended to be a neutral means of referring to Joek. If it would have given Joek offence, I can go back and tweak that, since at this point Daelemos intends to leave Joek to 'clean house' and has no particular desire to wind up or humiliate him.
Maybe there could be some interesting discussion amongst the servants of the board that came out of this...

Kobold Catgirl |

(edited)
Daelemos calling Joek 'his lordship Joek' was intended to be a neutral means of referring to Joek. If it would have given Joek offence, I can go back and tweak that, since at this point Daelemos intends to leave Joek to 'clean house' and has no particular desire to wind up or humiliate him.
Maybe there could be some interesting discussion amongst the servants of the board that came out of this...
Why would he be offended?

Ch'ack Hammer |

...okay. I call Godmode on your, Emperor. Your personal story is over, it's time to respect other people's feelings now.
Godmodding? The fool stood there shielding himself with words as a man with a hammer approaches. No godmodding there, just a hammer of throwing.
Personal? Your characters attacked my character's child character. Should they hold hands now?

Kobold Catgirl |

Kobold Cleaver wrote:...okay. I call Godmode on your, Emperor. Your personal story is over, it's time to respect other people's feelings now.Godmodding? The fool stood there shielding himself with words as a man with a hammer approaches. No godmodding there, just a hammer of throwing.
Personal? Your characters attacked my character's child character. Should they hold hands now?
Okay, you're getting a bit too IC, Emperor. You're supposed to give everybody a chance to dodge.
I am going offline now. This is so incredibly unfair. HE ACTUALLY DID HAVE A SHIELD!She dives down, and lands in front of Dral.
I am going offline now. You are being a jerk. You have gotten used to being the center of the story. But your personal quest is over. That is my character, and you have killed him without permission.

Kobold Catgirl |

Kobold Cleaver wrote:If you want to RP without having to worry about messing up somebody else's story, go play NaNoWriMo. a!!~%#~.Wow. This is screwed up. Run stories by yourself, with all your own characters, then you can control everything.
Um...what? I had not godmoded at all. You killed my character without permission. I can't see how you can make an argument for this.

lynora |

KC, I think you are overreacting. The rule is that you're not allowed to kill someone else's character unless that someone effectively declares open season on them. I thought you had. Obviously in your mind that applied to Tarvek only and not to Dral and Stina, but it wasn't clear. And, as was pointed out to me the last time I got emotional about someone doing something that I didn't like to one of my characters, nobody can do something to your character without your consent. All you have to say is no. In this case all you had to say was that at the last second the teleport took effect. Or that Stina takes the body and has him raised. Either way, you control what happens to your character. And, as a note, when you don't like how something went down, it works better if you assume the best of the other player instead of assuming that they did something to be a jerk. Misunderstandings and disagreements happen.

Kobold Catgirl |

KC, I think you are overreacting. The rule is that you're not allowed to kill someone else's character unless that someone effectively declares open season on them. I thought you had. Obviously in your mind that applied to Tarvek only and not to Dral and Stina, but it wasn't clear. And, as was pointed out to me the last time I got emotional about someone doing something that I didn't like to one of my characters, nobody can do something to your character without your consent. All you have to say is no. In this case all you had to say was that at the last second the teleport took effect. Or that Stina takes the body and has him raised. Either way, you control what happens to your character. And, as a note, when you don't like how something went down, it works better if you assume the best of the other player instead of assuming that they did something to be a jerk. Misunderstandings and disagreements happen.
Very well, I have decided not to go through with my complaint. I would rather continue with the argument (bewteen Dral and Stina and JH)a short while longer before leaving, though. At least so that I can go to bed.
Also, I am still online after all. This website is addictive.
lynora |

Just so that it's clear, Dral and Stina are now intended to be my main characters pretty much. Given that all my others are evil/aloof.
Okay, well that's good info to have. Before this I had thought they were expendable mooks. I will take that into consideration.
Edit: It helps if you make that clearer earlier on in the process. It avoids unnecessary conflicts.
Kobold Catgirl |

Kobold Cleaver wrote:Just so that it's clear, Dral and Stina are now intended to be my main characters pretty much. Given that all my others are evil/aloof.Okay, well that's good info to have. Before this I had thought they were expendable mooks. I will take that into consideration.
Edit: It helps if you make that clearer earlier on in the process. It avoids unnecessary conflicts.
Yeah, it suddenly occurred to me that you guys probably thought they were more RPing opportunities than characters. Sorry about that.
I will actually be logging off now, good night. And just to get one-up on Dragonborn, Good Morning in advance! :P
The Dalesman |

I will actually be logging off now, good night. And just to get one-up on Dragonborn, Good Morning in advance! :P
[Sigh]
Glad to see my mannerisms are so memorable that they are being attributed to others now. The essence of being a Void Incarnate, I guess... :POh...and Good Morning All :)

lynora |

Okay, so I cut and pasted the whole exchange from the Place of the Winds into a word document so I could see if I had just jumped to wrongheaded conclusions that started this whole problem. And what I found was that I jumped to the only conclusions I possibly could. Reading that over there is no way in the fricking universe that I could possibly have guessed that the servants and the Mask weren't working together, either by words or by eyewitness account. Also, the servants were sufficiently menacing towards Arielle to justify her reaction, and the only one I know of that she killed was the idiot who flew straight into the middle of her weather practice while trying to capture her. From my reading it looks like the servants tried to use deadly force on her and were responsible for the deaths of the rest of their own team. Also, Tarvek at least was entirely aware that not good things were going to happen to Arielle. I doubt you'll be hurt very much? Not the words of an innocent man. At the very least they tried to kidnap a child and deliver her to a known evil. That in itself is more than sufficient for parents to go ballistic and use deadly force in retribution. You'd have a long, long wait trying to get mercy from LJ on this one. You wildly underestimate the utter unreasonableness of a parent defending their child. And, I'm sorry, but I just don't buy these guys as nonevil. Based on the info I could have gotten from what Arielle saw and what I could have heard on the winds, I stand by my recap as the only way I could have interpreted the info in front of me.
KC, you've been making a lot of assumptions about our ability to read your mind on this storyline. Let me be clear. We can't. I'm not trying to be contentious, but you picked a really wonky way to introduce characters you intended to be your main guys here.

Kobold Catgirl |

Okay, so I cut and pasted the whole exchange from the Place of the Winds into a word document so I could see if I had just jumped to wrongheaded conclusions that started this whole problem. And what I found was that I jumped to the only conclusions I possibly could. Reading that over there is no way in the fricking universe that I could possibly have guessed that the servants and the Mask weren't working together, either by words or by eyewitness account. Also, the servants were sufficiently menacing towards Arielle to justify her reaction, and the only one I know of that she killed was the idiot who flew straight into the middle of her weather practice while trying to capture her. From my reading it looks like the servants tried to use deadly force on her and were responsible for the deaths of the rest of their own team. Also, Tarvek at least was entirely aware that not good things were going to happen to Arielle. I doubt you'll be hurt very much? Not the words of an innocent man. At the very least they tried to kidnap a child and deliver her to a known evil. That in itself is more than sufficient for parents to go ballistic and use deadly force in retribution. You'd have a long, long wait trying to get mercy from LJ on this one. You wildly underestimate the utter unreasonableness of a parent defending their child. And, I'm sorry, but I just don't buy these guys as nonevil. Based on the info I could have gotten from what Arielle saw and what I could have heard on the winds, I stand by my recap as the only way I could have interpreted the info in front of me.
KC, you've been making a lot of assumptions about our ability to read your mind on this storyline. Let me be clear. We can't. I'm not trying to be contentious, but you picked a really wonky way to introduce characters you intended to be your main guys here.
Hey, I made no assumptions. I expected Lynora and JH to make false conclusions based on what they knew of the Mask and the Servants. Servants always act rather emotionless when on a job, and Tarvek was just really honest. I think he counted 'harm' as 'being kidnapped and held for ransom', but Dral either didn't think so or was just desperate to get inside. If a soldier in the army is commanded to do something he thinks is wrong, odds are he'll still do it, given the other option. Dral and Tarvek ARE/WERE both good (although Stina is just Lawful Neutral).
Look, I'm not mad that JH and Lynora didn't let them in. I like it as an RPing challenge. I'm only annoyed at myself for getting my characters into a situation where they need to be rescued.Also, The Mask and the Servants have very different goals, guys. If you read the Servants of the Board, you'd know this. They decided to let the Mask banish Azurith, which would make their job easier: Azurith would be gone and the Mask, their other target, would be weakened. The Mask wanted to turn her into a lich, the Servants did not (to Tarvek's Dral's and Stina's knowledge). They did not attack with lethal force, either. One of the untrained ones fired an arrow, which was stopped by the Mask.
Guys, I am not upset that you guys didn't let them in. Remember, this is a ROLEPLAYING thing, where our characters have different intentions and feelings than ourselves.

lynora |

To clarify what I'm doing right now with LJ, she's about to get bumped down to demigoddess. The idea being that Linna's soul was arrested mid-transformation, and now it's trying to finish that transformation, but first it has to get rid of all the foreign energy its been forced to harbor. She's keeping the healing and the Songs, but the phenomenal cosmic powers are going bye-bye.

Kobold Catgirl |

To clarify what I'm doing right now with LJ, she's about to get bumped down to demigoddess. The idea being that Linna's soul was arrested mid-transformation, and now it's trying to finish that transformation, but first it has to get rid of all the foreign energy its been forced to harbor. She's keeping the healing and the Songs, but the phenomenal cosmic powers are going bye-bye.
And the wards?
*Acts uninterested*
lynora |

lynora wrote:To clarify what I'm doing right now with LJ, she's about to get bumped down to demigoddess. The idea being that Linna's soul was arrested mid-transformation, and now it's trying to finish that transformation, but first it has to get rid of all the foreign energy its been forced to harbor. She's keeping the healing and the Songs, but the phenomenal cosmic powers are going bye-bye.And the wards?
*Acts uninterested*
I didn't say that power was disappearing. :)
Looks like Djuhah is getting a promotion. His temperament is definitely much better suited to watching over the cosmos.But, no, she won't be in control of them anymore.

Lucinda Darkeyes |

Kobold Cleaver wrote:lynora wrote:To clarify what I'm doing right now with LJ, she's about to get bumped down to demigoddess. The idea being that Linna's soul was arrested mid-transformation, and now it's trying to finish that transformation, but first it has to get rid of all the foreign energy its been forced to harbor. She's keeping the healing and the Songs, but the phenomenal cosmic powers are going bye-bye.And the wards?
*Acts uninterested*I didn't say that power was disappearing. :)
Looks like Djuhah is getting a promotion. His temperament is definitely much better suited to watching over the cosmos.
But, no, she won't be in control of them anymore.
Oohhh, does that mean that just like Uatu he's not going to directly interfere in anything?

lynora |

lynora wrote:Kobold Cleaver wrote:lynora wrote:To clarify what I'm doing right now with LJ, she's about to get bumped down to demigoddess. The idea being that Linna's soul was arrested mid-transformation, and now it's trying to finish that transformation, but first it has to get rid of all the foreign energy its been forced to harbor. She's keeping the healing and the Songs, but the phenomenal cosmic powers are going bye-bye.And the wards?
*Acts uninterested*I didn't say that power was disappearing. :)
Looks like Djuhah is getting a promotion. His temperament is definitely much better suited to watching over the cosmos.
But, no, she won't be in control of them anymore.Oohhh, does that mean that just like Uatu he's not going to directly interfere in anything?
Pretty much yes. He's going to keep the Eyrie secure and that's about the extent of his intended involvement with the material plane. He's going to be much too busy keeping order in the cosmos. Properly, since LJ was obviously much too flighty and distractible to do it right. ;)