Cleopatra VII Philopator vs. Elizabeth Tudor
Feminine wiles vs. feminine wiles. Which lady better politically maneuvered?
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Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Queen of Ireland, last and perhaps greatest of the Tudors, held the Crown, Church and Counrty at what would have been the one of Great Britain's greatest time of challenge.
Despite of a nation and Court divided, she humbled The Spanish Armada, the greatest sea power of its day. She was patron to English adventurers such as Sir Francis Drake and John Hawkins. In her day, poets, playwrights such as Christopher Marlowe and THE BARD, William Shakespeare, flourished like never before.
She lent her name to The Golden Age, indeed THE Elizabethan Age was named for her.
That and she had guns and canons dude.
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Cleopatra, who was portrayed by some white girl named Elizabeth.
Come on.
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Cleopatra, who was portrayed by some white girl named Elizabeth.
Cleopatra inherited a civilization on the decline which could have been annexed by Rome yet maintained the alliance despite Rome’s own civil unrest.
Cleopatra, who was portrayed by some white girl named Elizabeth.Cleopatra inherited a civilization on the decline which could have been annexed by Rome yet maintained the alliance despite Rome’s own civil unrest.
That's wghat you call good-looks put to good use :D
That's wghat you call good-looks put to good use :DCleopatra, who was portrayed by some white girl named Elizabeth.Cleopatra inherited a civilization on the decline which could have been annexed by Rome yet maintained the alliance despite Rome’s own civil unrest.
Actually, many historians believe she was not attractive. However, she was great at the art of seduction.
Could Elizabeth fend off Rome so close? One could argue it was the weather that defeated the Spanish Armada.
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Could Elizabeth fend off Rome so close? One could argue it was the weather that defeated the Spanish Armada.
Cleopatra did not fend off Rome either. Her armada lost at the Battle of Actium, and Egypt was absorbed by Rome.
Elizabeth's country remained independent, and eventually surpassed Spain's empire.
Elizabeth Regina. No contest.
You got me there.
I guess Catherine the Great would not be a much better comparison.
Joan of Arc?
Why all the fight threads today, CF? Can't we just all...ya know...get along, man?
Edit: Huh, I don't have a hippie alias...
Bored and trying to spark some intellectual debate. Guess I should just go and god mod in one of the cult threads.
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Actually, many historians believe she was not attractive. However, she was great at the art of seduction.That's wghat you call good-looks put to good use :DCleopatra, who was portrayed by some white girl named Elizabeth.Cleopatra inherited a civilization on the decline which could have been annexed by Rome yet maintained the alliance despite Rome’s own civil unrest.
Titus Pollo sez she looks allroit.
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I guess Catherine the Great would not be a much better comparison.
Well, Catherine was a German who managed to become an exceptionally well-regarded ruler of Russia, so I expect that is a rather significant accomplishment. And considerable territory was added to Russia during her reign.
I would not particularly compare her to Elizabeth, but she is reasonably on the level of Cleopatra, despite Cleopatra's eventual defeat.
Intellectual debate? That never ends well. Stick with name calling and feces-flinging.
Trying to cut back. Of course I still seem to be in snotty cheap shot mode.
Yeah, I am drifting here a bit trying to find a comparable comparison. Joan did not have to lead a country. On the other hand, how many actual battles did Elizabeth command?
Do you have a suggestion for a good comparison, Samuel?
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Yeah, I am drifting here a bit trying to find a comparable comparison. Joan did not have to lead a country. On the other hand, how many actual battles did Elizabeth command?
Do you have a suggestion for a good comparison, Samuel?
To Elizabeth I?
Well, a basic contrast is the woman she executed, Mary of Scotland.For actual ability though, probably one the Byzantine Empresses, Irene or Zoe, or one of the Queens of Navarre perhaps. Eleanor of Aquitaine, although never sovereign, is also a good comparison.
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Thank you.
To Elizabeth I?
Thank you, sir. Wikipedia, here I come.