How about the other companies

[Brix]

It has become quite with news of other companies going 4E or joining Pathfinder or doing whatever..

Do you have any news....
Necromancer Games
Kobold Quarterly
Malhavoc Press
Sean K. Reynolds Games ;o)
Sword & Sorcery
others?

I know that
Goodman Games is lost to 4E

[Krome]

Shame about Goodman.

I believe that Malhavoc is pretty much not publishing anything any more. Monte was leaving the RPG scene as an active player to pursue other opportunities. I noticed that the Book of Experimental Might is being sold by Paizo and is still 3.5. So I doubt there will be much new stuff at all from Monte and Malhavoc Press.

Darn shame.

[Vic Wertz]

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you. However, I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

[Kvantum]

Sword and Sorcery is dead, however its IP (including the Scarred Lands setting) will be going 4e under the control of Fiery Dragon Press (the Counter Collection people).

[Heathansson]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you. However, I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

Cool! I love surprises.

You mean like WOTC? heh heh....

[toyrobots]

Vic Wertz wrote:

I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

Would this be the PCL? PRPGCL?

My vote is for the PRCL, which we can pronounce as "persull"...

[Krome]

toyrobots wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

Would this be the PCL? PRPGCL?

My vote is for the PRCL, which we can pronounce as "persull"...

Or we could call the PRPGCL the perpegcill...

>;)

[Kyrinn S. Eis]

Kvantum wrote:

Sword and Sorcery is dead, however its IP (including the Scarred Lands setting) will be going 4e under the control of Fiery Dragon Press (the Counter Collection people).

What a shame. :(

[Crimson Jester]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you. However, I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

I love surprises.

[DitheringFool]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you. However, I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

Hurry and release that license!!! The suspense is killing me...

[Brix]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you. However, I doubt you'll hear anything from them until after we release the Pathfinder RPG Compatibility License early next year.

That's really good news.

The more companies wear the Pathfinder brand the better IMO.
I still think that the majority of the people never heard of paizo holding up the 3E cup. So maybe if some of the good 3E companies join the fray more people get aware of the 'movement'.

With regards to other companies I find Necromancer Games current paralyzation most dramatic. NG was - at least for me - one of the best 3E companies around. I really loved their products much. I think Clark made a mistake announcing his dedication to 4E so early. Since then the website hasn't changed for months and the forums are almost dead. I really hope that NG goes Pathfinder and becomes active and vivid again.

[sykoholic]

Brix wrote:

Goodman Games is lost to 4E

Not necessarily. A publisher can support 4E and other systems but not with the same brand/product line. So while the "Dungeon Crawl Classics" line may be lost to 4E, Goodman is still free to create a new line/brand and support Pathfinder through it. Whether or not they actually do this remains to be seen.

*edit*
Note: That is my understanding of the GSL anyways. I could very easily have it all wrong.

[Matthew Morris]

I too can't wait for the final product, and the Paizo Open Gaming License. (Poggle?)

Pathfinder Access X-over Industry License? (PAXIL)

Pathfinder Open Kit Exchange Moderated Open Notice? (POKEMON)

Pathfinder Open Source? (POS)

Open Organization Paizo System (OOPS)

[Kyrinn]

Matthew Morris wrote:

Pathfinder Open Kit Exchange Moderated Open Notice? (POKEMON)

ROFL!!!

I do hope Green Ronin is among them.

[MerrikCale]

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you.

Wizards of the Coast would be surprising. Is that who you mean?

[Todd Stewart]

Kvantum wrote:

Sword and Sorcery is dead, however its IP (including the Scarred Lands setting) will be going 4e under the control of Fiery Dragon Press (the Counter Collection people).

I really liked the setting, though I didn't have a chance to get the books till after the setting was out of print. I'd consider getting the new stuff (4e or not if the flavor was well written), except as I've heard it said, they're going to be changing some rather core elements of the Scarred Lands setting to make it mesh without problems to the 4e game mechanics, design philosophy, and Points of Light campaign style.

[Matthew Morris]

Todd Stewart wrote:

I really liked the setting, though I didn't have a chance to get the books till after the setting was out of print. I'd consider getting the new stuff (4e or not if the flavor was well written), except as I've heard it said, they're going to be changing some rather core elements of the Scarred Lands setting to make it mesh without problems to the 4e game mechanics, design philosophy, and Points of Light campaign style.

Wow, that blows. I always got a 'Greek Mythology gone wrong' vibe from the Scarred lands. Even though the 'heat' mechanic bothered me, with bards being a hole in it. I never ran a game in it, but I used the monsters in my own games to great effect.

[Epic Meepo]

Todd Stewart wrote:

I've heard it said, they're going to be changing some rather core elements of the Scarred Lands setting to make it mesh without problems to the 4e game mechanics, design philosophy, and Points of Light campaign style.

[Borg voice]

>We are the Fourth Edition campaign setting.
>Your independent campaign settings will be assimilated.
>Their geographical distinctiveness will be added to our own.
>Resistance is futile.

[/Borg voice]

[Todd Stewart]

Todd Stewart wrote:

I really liked the setting, though I didn't have a chance to get the books till after the setting was out of print. I'd consider getting the new stuff (4e or not if the flavor was well written), except as I've heard it said, they're going to be changing some rather core elements of the Scarred Lands setting to make it mesh without problems to the 4e game mechanics, design philosophy, and Points of Light campaign style.

That said, if I heard wrong, someone correct me please.

[Andre Caceres]

When the final Pathfinder RPG comes out I'm sure you'll get some companies to join up, in fact I suspect you'll see most independent companies doing something along the lines of supporting pathfinder.

However realisticly you will not see this to the same extent as the in the days of the D20 boom time. This only makes sense, make limited runs supporting varies lines means sales, while doing lots and lots of stuff supporting 4e has an already proven outcome, less and less sales in a more and more crowded market almost forcing them to make their own publishing house rules/lines.

Conan
True 20
Arcana Evloved
World of War Craft RPG
Midnight

and now Pathfinder.

Of these the first two continue fine. AE has stopped, so to WOW I think, though if they stayed in print it was its own PH/setting that could continue (in a way that Pathfinder is doing). Midnight while not completly its own rules set was distinct enough for me to regard it as such, but I have no idea which way they are going.

Of these books and their respective companies I think only True 20 has supported 3pp, (ie allowing them to use the name true20).

Paizo isn't just doing that, but is attempting (so far as I understand) to replace Wizards as the leader of OGL system, the new center for that system. As such its only logical that other companies do some work to support them. But Pathfinder has an added benfit that most compines intersted in supporting the line are ones that have been successful, know the system (because they've worked there own 'house system' from the core source) so they will not produce junk into the market. They are not as dependet on Paizo so we wont get 5 to 10 books a month thus glutting the market with stuff that while it might be good consumers simply cannot afford to buy all of it.

Please don't misunderstand, I not saying they will replace and beat 4e, but if your a fan of Pathfinder, I think 2009 will be a very happy new year.

TTFN DRE

[Patrick Baldwin]

Matthew Morris wrote:

Todd Stewart wrote:

I really liked the setting, though I didn't have a chance to get the books till after the setting was out of print. I'd consider getting the new stuff (4e or not if the flavor was well written), except as I've heard it said, they're going to be changing some rather core elements of the Scarred Lands setting to make it mesh without problems to the 4e game mechanics, design philosophy, and Points of Light campaign style.

Wow, that blows. I always got a 'Greek Mythology gone wrong' vibe from the Scarred lands. Even though the 'heat' mechanic bothered me, with bards being a hole in it. I never ran a game in it, but I used the monsters in my own games to great effect.

Yeah, it's really too bad. I liked the Scarred Lands setting quite a

bit, never got a chance to use the whole setting, but plundered
it for my other games. In particular, I thought their background
material for hags and witches was great. And Titan's blood was
a nice in-setting explanation for any crazy sort of monster you
might want to make.

I also stole the whole Jack of Tears thing wholesale for a
Ravenloft game.

Oh well, at least it should be easy enough to convert what I've got
to Pathfinder as needed.

[CharlieRock]

Brix wrote:

I know that
Goodman Games is lost to 4E

Every once in a blue moon Goodman Games puts out a C&C DCC. Since I also play Castles & Crusades this means that Joe G isnt totally lost. Just really slow on putting more out.

[Vic Wertz]

MerrikCale wrote:

Vic Wertz wrote:

Many companies have expressed their interest in creating Pathfinder RPG products, including some companies that may surprise a lot of you.

Wizards of the Coast would be surprising. Is that who you mean?

I was thinking more the "Well, that's a surprise!" kind of surprising, not the "Elizabeth, this is the big one! I'm coming to join you, honey!" kind of surprising.

[Dale McCoy Jr]

Companies that would surprise me:

• West End Games (because if they actually produced anything ever again, it would surprise me)
  
• Mongoose (well, this really wouldn't be a surprise, but still it would still give me a moment's pause)
  
• Palladium (they largely do their own thing so producing under the OGL now would surprise me)
  
• Whoever is doing Dark Herasy
  
• White Wolf (I mean they recently sold off all their d20 stuff so they'd be starting from scratch)
  
• TSR (That would certainly be a surprise, wouldn't it)
  

Companies that wouldn't surprise me:

• Green Ronin
  
• Necromancer
  
• LPJ Designs
  
• Tricky Owl Bear
  
• XRP (even if they are doing 4e stuff)
  
• Adamant
  
• AEG
  
• ... And pretty much anyone that ever produced 3.5 material that didn't go 4E.
  

[Dale McCoy Jr]

Companies that would really surprise me:

• Stephen Colbert (because I am sure Colbert fans would start publishing RPG material, if he said on air that his fans should)
  
• Southwest Airlines
  
• Penguin Books
  
• The Trump Organization, and
  
• Cambell's Soup
  

[Dragnmoon]

DMcCoy1693 wrote:

Companies that would really surprise me:

• Stephen Colbert (because I am sure Colbert fans would start publishing RPG material, if he said on air that his fans should)
  
• Southwest Airlines
  
• Penguin Books
  
• The Trump Organization, and
  
• Cambell's Soup
  

Maybe the 'Big 3' will be producing RPG material under pathfinder license to help get out of their financial woes?...

Though I don't think that will help them...

;-)

[DitheringFool]

I think I read Dreamscarred Press intends on releasing Pathfinder stuff in '09...

[Dale McCoy Jr]

Dragnmoon wrote:

Maybe the 'Big 3' will be producing RPG material under pathfinder license to help get out of their financial woes?...

Yea, I can't wait to see the new classes from Ford:

the Explorer (variant of the basic ranger),
the Taurus (their Fighter/Monk variant that focuses on bull rush)
the Focus (new kind of Arcanist)
the Crown Victoria (playable aristocrat)

and of course the F-150. It uses twice the resources of all other classes, but all damage dealt to it is cut in half.

[Kyrinn]

DMcCoy1693 wrote:

Yea, I can't wait to see the new classes from Ford:

the Explorer (variant of the basic ranger),
the Taurus (their Fighter/Monk variant that focuses on bull rush)
the Focus (new kind of Arcanist)
the Crown Victoria (playable aristocrat)

and of course the F-150. It uses twice the resources of all other classes, but all damage dealt to it is cut in half.

This did bring a smile to my face. Thanks! :D

[Epic Meepo]

DMcCoy1693 wrote:

Companies that would really surprise me:

• Stephen Colbert (because I am sure Colbert fans would start publishing RPG material, if he said on air that his fans should)
  
• Southwest Airlines
  
• Penguin Books
  
• The Trump Organization, and
  
• Cambell's Soup
  

Or Phillip-Morris, producing a supplement with rules for anthropomorphic camels and a prestige class for chain-smoking cowboys.

[Dale McCoy Jr]

You know, if the big 3 start producing RPG material, it'll give new meaning to the term "broken".

[Dragnmoon]

DMcCoy1693 wrote:

You know, if the big 3 start producing RPG material, it'll give new meaning to the term "broken".

But you can Always Upgrade to the Nice 70,000 Readings or 7 Years Warranty they will offer on their books!!!