Its official: Economic failure to descimate Local Governments


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Just caught News Hour on PBS and apparently Local Governments are going to be in deep poo! So as we are A grade Geniuses lets have some ideas to apply at the local Government Level.

1. Generate its own low tech Energy
a. Growing Firewood locally to fuel a wood fired power station.
b. Steam Turbines supplied by Black poly pipe with water to absorb heat and create steam for power generation.

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Better traffic lights for problem intersections.

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Using firewood for a steam plant would be environmentally disastrous for many areas. It would deplete the soil in a thoroughly unsustainable manner.

Cogeneration is useful for heating water for domestic use, but is not sufficient for more power generation at the levels required.

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Build a Particle Collider for the specfic purpose of creating mini Black Holes.

Capture those Mini Black holes to harness the Infinite power from them for Power.

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More bike trails.

Better public relations initiatives for the Police Department.

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Better public transport.

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Federal Pork money for the city.

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New Professional Sports Franchise Stadium


1. Slash town bureaucrat pay, give savings to police and fire departments.
2. Slash school superintendant/principal pay, give savings to teachers
3. Slash school sports funding, give savings to art programs and library.
4. Take all town vehicles away from the bureaucrats: Make them share a communal '90 Toyota Corrola when they need to travel on 'town' business. Take the late model Fords and Lincolns confiscated and make police and fire vehicles out of them.

Just a few thoughts.

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Sell th' jet on ebay.

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Heathansson wrote:
...Better public relations initiatives for the Police Department...

yeah, you live in Dallas...

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Heathansson wrote:
New Professional Sports Franchise Stadium

hey, don't blame arlington! miller could have built a new one in fair park! ;)

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Samuel Weiss wrote:

Using firewood for a steam plant would be environmentally disastrous for many areas. It would deplete the soil in a thoroughly unsustainable manner.

Cogeneration is useful for heating water for domestic use, but is not sufficient for more power generation at the levels required.

1. Firewood: Considering Oil now costs as much as firewood.

a. Managed harvests on a 20 year cycle using Mimosa Pigra - a notorious nitrogen rich humus producer.
b. Carbon return as Light Aggregate gravel - a building material.

2. CoGeneration (hadnt heard the name): I have seen it used as a Hotwater system. I have also seen steam sufficient to go for a power generation system where intermitent surges in steam production charge a battery pile off a small turbine belt driving a car Alternator. It isnt continuous production though but on a large scale it doesnt need to be.

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yellowdingo wrote:

1. Firewood: Considering Oil now costs as much as firewood.

a. Managed harvests on a 20 year cycle using Mimosa Pigra - a notorious nitrogen rich humus producer.
b. Carbon return as Light Aggregate gravel - a building material.

Do you want cheap or do you want sustainable?

20 year cycles sound nice, but they still drain the soil over time, and they still have a limit on how much energy they can yield.
Using gravel is just taking from one place to support another, which is higher cost and more environmental disruption.

yellowdingo wrote:
2. CoGeneration (hadnt heard the name): I have seen it used as a Hotwater system. I have also seen steam sufficient to go for a power generation system where intermitent surges in steam production charge a battery pile off a small turbine belt driving a car Alternator. It isnt continuous production though but on a large scale it doesnt need to be.

Right, a hot water system, not a steam turbine system that can power a town or city. Check your Laws of Thermodynamics for the bad news on that plan.

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Samuel Weiss wrote:

Do you want cheap or do you want sustainable?
20 year cycles sound nice, but they still drain the soil over time, and they still have a limit on how much energy they can yield.
Using gravel is just taking from one place to support another, which is higher cost and more environmental disruption.

Firewood is a locally producable commodity.

Cropping of timber does not damage the soil, it is the plant type that affects change on soil.
Firewood is going to be Cheaper than Oil and sustainable.
Certainly there is the smoke health issue...

Samuel Weiss wrote:

Right, a hot water system, not a steam turbine system that can power a town or city. Check your Laws of Thermodynamics for the bad news on that plan.

A steam-Pulse Generator is still a generator of electricity, not just hot water. If A local government scales up it can produce real electricity which can be stored until used.

Frankly you might as well have a pulse generator on your mains water.

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