McCain picks a woman as his running mate. I have nothing against women. But this sooooooo smacks of "me too, me too, look at me!"
True, but it is a smart move, you gotta admit. One of the biggest problems with his image is that he seems like the kind of guy that would yell at you to get of his lawn. A female VP pick says, "hey voters, I'm hip, I dig all this crazy equality stuff too!"
Now if he can just get his staffers to quit insulting the gaming community...
Just read some of the bio on Palin. She doesn't seem qualified.
What if the ol' guy has a heart attack?
Just read some of the bio on Palin. She doesn't seem qualified.
What if the ol' guy has a heart attack?
She is currently under investigation by state lawmakers over the dismissal of a state public safety commissioner.
She is alleged to have sacked him because he did not dismiss a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from her younger sister.If it proves to have a basis in fact, it won't do McCain any favors.
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Just read some of the bio on Palin. She doesn't seem qualified.
What if the ol' guy has a heart attack?
Heh.
Strangely enough, she has more executive experience than all the other three candidates combined. 2 years. Its a strange election year.
I like the choice, my main complaint would be the experience, but she seems solid on other issues. Though I was pulling for Romney as Veep myself.
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McCain picks a woman as his running mate. I have nothing against women. But this sooooooo smacks of "me too, me too, look at me!"
Well of course it does. The problem that McCain has is that any choice he makes is either going to open himself up to charges of politics as usual, or what you said about "me too." Sarah Palin is a fiscal conservative with a strong record of reform and opposition to deficit spending. She is pro-life, but is also a feminist. She supports giving gay couples equal rights with married couples through civil unions but opposes gay marriage. She has stated that any constitutional amendment should be reviewed by a non-partisan democratic advisory panel made up of the members of the general populace. She put such a council in place to study a constitutional ban on gay marriage in Alaska. She seems more like a great compromise candidate than a "me too" pick.
FYI: I was rooting for Romney.
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Just read some of the bio on Palin. She doesn't seem qualified.
What if the ol' guy has a heart attack?
She is currently under investigation by state lawmakers over the dismissal of a state public safety commissioner.
She is alleged to have sacked him because he did not dismiss a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from her younger sister.
If it proves to have a basis in fact, it won't do McCain any favors.
However, even the Democrats in Alaska say she has been cooperative and that there doesn't seem to be an issue. Don't forget that it was Palin who called for the investigation.
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She is alleged to have sacked him because he did not dismiss a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce from her younger sister.
Honestly though, the brother-in-law should have been fired based on the court records. He threatened to kill his then father-in-law, violated a protective order, tasered his 11 year old stepson and violated fish and game laws by poaching. He got a five day suspension. Most of us would have ended up in jail. In fact my neighbor did end up in jail last night just for the p.o. violation.
The most interesting thing about her is that she was born in Sandpoint!
btw, it's McCain's 72nd birthday today- another momentous anniversary.
FYI: I was rooting for Romney.Hey - we could start 'Pathfinders for Romney - 2012." ;)I'll jump on that Romney bandwagon!
I honestly don't think she's a bad choice though. I've heard a whole bunch of Obama supporters already bashing her for lack of experience.
Uh, huh. Pot, meet kettle.
Hey, I don't deny Obama doesn't have a lot of experience, but her experience is limited to Alaska. How is she supposed to be able to deal with National politics without any national political experience.
She's also a Comm/Journalism major. ugh.
Smart move on McCain's part. Takes the wind out of Obamas (overinflated) sails. Now it's going to look like two ol' boy insiders versus a "maverick" and a strong woman.
I wonder how many women will now vote for McCain while hoping he has a heart attack in his first month in office? ;)
Hrm. As someone voting for Obama, I don't buy into the "lack of experience" angle. Personally, I think someone who doesn't have a long history in Washington is a good thing.
I'm not a big fan of her politics (Constitutional ban on gay marriage? seriously?), but that isn't surprising. She is better than Romney as far as I'm concerned.
Certainly there are hints of "going after the Hillary vote" a bit, but really, David is right: McCain was going to catch some flack no matter who he chose.
As for whether this choice hurts or helps McCain: I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.
Smart move on McCain's part. Takes the wind out of Obamas (overinflated) sails. Now it's going to look like two ol' boy insiders versus a "maverick" and a strong woman.
I wonder how many women will now vote for McCain while hoping he has a heart attack in his first month in office? ;)
I have a hard time seeing Obama come across as an "ol' boy insider." Maybe that's just me.
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Hey, I don't deny Obama doesn't have a lot of experience, but her experience is limited to Alaska. How is she supposed to be able to deal with National politics without any national political experience.
She's also a Comm/Journalism major. ugh.
She'll take a two week trip across europe and everyone will see that based off of it she is fully capable to handle the nuances of international politics, I mean it worked for Obama
I have a hard time seeing Obama come across as an "ol' boy insider." Maybe that's just me.
He was at Harvard Law and worked in the Chicago Daley machine, one of the nastiest (read, most corrupt) political meatgrinders in American politics.
I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.
I never understood why this happens. I'd never vote for a candidate just because he came from my home town, let alone my state/province.
I have a hard time seeing Obama come across as an "ol' boy insider." Maybe that's just me.He was at Harvard Law and worked in the Chicago Daley machine, one of the nastiest (read, most corrupt) political meatgrinders in American politics.
But aren't "insider" and "inexperienced" mutually exclusive in this context? Even if they aren't, certainly a public perception of such a contradiction would prevent Obama from being seen as an insider, no?
For my part, I'm not too concerned about how much experience someone has. Sure, all other things being equal, more experience would be better. But I tend to think more experience brings with it more political debts and baggage as well.
I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.I never understood why this happens. I'd never vote for a candidate just because he came from my home town, let alone my state/province.
Me either, but it seems to be common. :(
Rumor is she's an old school 2e grognard.
So hopefully she'll pull back the d&d voters.
Rumor from where? :/
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Hey, I don't deny Obama doesn't have a lot of experience, but her experience is limited to Alaska. How is she supposed to be able to deal with National politics without any national political experience.
Well, she's not running on the top spot, so for the first little bit the VP is just a glorified understudy anyway. Don't forget that the only experience the Bill Clinton had was running Arkansas. People said he was too young and inexperienced too. Ross Perot even went so far as to say that thinking you could run the U.S. after running Arkansas was like thinking you could run a major corporation after you had managed a 7-11. Give her a chance, she might surprise you.
As for whether this choice hurts or helps McCain: I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.I would totally have voted for him if he had. As it stands, I'm voting for Bob Barr
Not a huge Barr fan; he doesn't seem very libertarian to me. And voting for a third party candidate strikes me as a bit of a prisoner's dilemma scenario. But kudos to you for voting your conscience.
But aren't "insider" and "inexperienced" mutually exclusive in this context? Even if they aren't, certainly a public perception of such a contradiction would prevent Obama from being seen as an insider, no?
I would say he's an insider in regards to national politics (Chicago/Washington) but very naive and inexperienced in international politics. And this difference is reflected in how people perceive Obama/McCain in polls about international crises such as Georgia.
For my part, I'm not too concerned about how much experience someone has. Sure, all other things being equal, more experience would be better. But I tend to think more experience brings with it more political debts and baggage as well.
True. There have been many excellent leaders who had little experience being at the top. But they are rare.
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Rumor from where? :/Rumor is she's an old school 2e grognard.
So hopefully she'll pull back the d&d voters.
Apropos of not much... I was thinking to myself today about the candidates and what role would they fill in a Dungeons and Dragons Game.
I can't see Obama as a DM but I can see him as a player. I can't see McCain as a player but I can picture him as a DM.
Biden I can see doing both. I can also see him talking the whole time so that otheres never get to play (that man loves the sound of his voice).
Palin I can see as a player, but not so much a DM.
Anyway... back to the politics.
Hrm. As someone voting for Obama, I don't buy into the "lack of experience" angle. Personally, I think someone who doesn't have a long history in Washington is a good thing.
I'm not a big fan of her politics (Constitutional ban on gay marriage? seriously?), but that isn't surprising. She is better than Romney as far as I'm concerned.
Certainly there are hints of "going after the Hillary vote" a bit, but really, David is right: McCain was going to catch some flack no matter who he chose.
As for whether this choice hurts or helps McCain: I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.
I think there's nothing wrong with a mix of experience. You've got Biden and McCain with decades of Washington experience. You've got Obama with state legislature experience. And you've got Palin with municipal and gubernatorial experience. Should be an interesting match-up.
With the exception of her support for teaching creationism in schools, Palin is not an unattractive candidate. I wonder how having a developmentally disabled infant will affect her ability to hit the campaign trail and, assuming she does, what it will do to her approval ratings. It won't hurt her image with feminists, but I wonder about the "family values" crowd's reaction. She may catch some serious flak.
I think this choice means McCain is going to push much harder on the maverick imagery. It's not a choice you'd expect out of the Republican party at all. A pretty savvy choice, I'm thinking.
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As for whether this choice hurts or helps McCain: I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.I would totally have voted for him if he had. As it stands, I'm voting for Bob Barr
My vote for McCain was going to totally hinge on whom he picked for #2.
I can live with his choice. But if he had gone wrong, I know several who were going to go with Barr, myself included.
McCain picks a woman as his running mate. I have nothing against women. But this sooooooo smacks of "me too, me too, look at me!"
Sen. McCain has just lost the election.
Rumor from where? :/Rumor is she's an old school 2e grognard.
So hopefully she'll pull back the d&d voters.Apropos of not much... I was thinking to myself today about the candidates and what role would they fill in a Dungeons and Dragons Game.
I can't see Obama as a DM but I can see him as a player. I can't see McCain as a player but I can picture him as a DM.
Biden I can see doing both. I can also see him talking the whole time so that otheres never get to play (that man loves the sound of his voice).
Palin I can see as a player, but not so much a DM.
Anyway... back to the politics.
Actually, that is not as completely irrelevant as it sounds. Being the DM, means controlling events. (Something people tend to want in a President . . . )
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It won't hurt her image with feminists, but I wonder about the "family values" crowd's reaction. She may catch some serious flak.
I think this choice means McCain is going to push much harder on the maverick imagery. It's not a choice you'd expect out of the Republican party at all. A pretty savvy choice, I'm thinking.
Two points. As a member of the 'family values' crowd, I can tell you that she will likely not catch flak from us as she seems to be a very devoted mother.
Secondly, if you didn't think that the republican party would ever nominate a woman, you don't understand the mentality of the conservative wing of the republican party very well at all. You may see the behavior but I suspect that you don't understand the thinking that underlies the behavior.
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I think the biggest advantage Palin gives McCain is that she can, if she does her job right, draw the disgruntled Hillary supporters into McCain's camp while shoring up his support with the conservative base. Also, every time somebody brings up her inexperience, the answer will be that she has more executive experience than Obama does. After all, she's actually run something. They can't use their best weapon without painting Obama with the same brush. Well played John McCain.
Wow. I actually like a lot of what I see, when I look into her. And I can't stand Joe Biden -- horrible choice on Obama's part, IMO, like saying "no change here!" I might just end up voting Republican after all... or maybe not. They all suck. Can I write in Arlen Specter?
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I think the biggest advantage Palin gives McCain is that she can, if she does her job right, draw the disgruntled Hillary supporters into McCain's camp while shoring up his support with the conservative base. Also, every time somebody brings up her inexperience, the answer will be that she has more executive experience than Obama does. After all, she's actually run something. They can't use their best weapon without painting Obama with the same brush. Well played John McCain.
He was not my candidate of choice but the man does at times have some political acumen.
OK, pardon my vernacular but somebody had to say it: McCain just signed up a hot Alaskan MILF for his team. This will play well among the college-age male demographic. :D
Hrm. As someone voting for Obama, I don't buy into the "lack of experience" angle. Personally, I think someone who doesn't have a long history in Washington is a good thing.
I'm not a big fan of her politics (Constitutional ban on gay marriage? seriously?), but that isn't surprising. She is better than Romney as far as I'm concerned.
Certainly there are hints of "going after the Hillary vote" a bit, but really, David is right: McCain was going to catch some flack no matter who he chose.
As for whether this choice hurts or helps McCain: I live in Arizona, so my state would go McCain if he chose Big Bird as his running mate.
I think there's nothing wrong with a mix of experience. You've got Biden and McCain with decades of Washington experience. You've got Obama with state legislature experience. And you've got Palin with municipal and gubernatorial experience. Should be an interesting match-up.
With the exception of her support for teaching creationism in schools, Palin is not an unattractive candidate. I wonder how having a developmentally disabled infant will affect her ability to hit the campaign trail and, assuming she does, what it will do to her approval ratings. It won't hurt her image with feminists, but I wonder about the "family values" crowd's reaction. She may catch some serious flak.
I think this choice means McCain is going to push much harder on the maverick imagery. It's not a choice you'd expect out of the Republican party at all. A pretty savvy choice, I'm thinking.
She might end up being a very good pick by McCain. Creationism in schools? She should appeal to the fundamentalist crowd.
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OK, pardon my vernacular but somebody had to say it: McCain just signed up a hot Alaskan MILF for his team. This will play well among the college-age male demographic. :D
The horny white male is the most overlooked demographic in politics.
I have to say, this election is now the most interesting election EVAH!!!!!! It doesn't matter if you are Republican or Democrat, Male or Female, Black oe WHite, this one has it all!!!! Now this is what America is really all about. God I love this country! Everybody remember to go out and vote!!!! God Bless America!!!!
OK, pardon my vernacular but somebody had to say it: McCain just signed up a hot Alaskan MILF for his team. This will play well among the college-age male demographic. :D
Yes, she is sexually attractive. We have recognized.
Now can we get past that to discuss her intelligence, capabilities, experience, and (unfortunately for me) political beliefs.
Rumor from where? :/Rumor is she's an old school 2e grognard.
So hopefully she'll pull back the d&d voters.Just a joke.
Hey, you never know who actually plays (or has played) so it could have been real. :D
I am soooooo pleased by this. I was dreading Romney, the only thing he did during the race for governor was throw money around (scary AmWay money at that). This may be the tipping point that finally gets McCain equal press time. I was just starting to lean Obama (before he picked the Luddite), but this swung me firmly back. Go McCain!
Creationism in schools? She should appeal to the fundamentalist crowd.
Yikes. I'm not sure I can, in good conscience, vote for that... even if her fiscal conservatism is refreshing.